HS track athlete stabbed & killed at track meet; suspect found guilty of murder

[Matt123]

Im more upset at the turn the other cheek, oh just walk away talk seemingly being the focus here. I understand it completely.. its still bothersome to me thought

Turning the cheek is this case (pause) isn’t really meant as turning the cheek but more so walking away and or avoiding an overblown situation that didn’t need to come even close to what had occurred.

Black parent/kids gotta be taught the very obvious that here there’s still not an apple to apples comparison. Two humans can be in the same scenario, doing the same thing, facing the same “what if” or consequences only difference is the color or their skin. The odds are very much in the favor for the white then the black.. it’s a horrible situation but thats still is today’s reality.

I was told something similar from my parents very young and although I didn’t fully understand then why we all wasn’t judged or treated the same like how it was within the family, it made more and more sense later in life, and thats coming from a very mixed family. Once you was outside them walls and in the real world is became very obvious.

 

[Freeman]

Im more upset at the turn the other cheek, oh just walk away talk seemingly being the focus here. I understand it completely.. its still bothersome to me though

Why? They're children at school. Thats the reasonable decision to make especially with adults around.

Maybe the disconnect is some of you are looking at the altercation as racially motivated and taking an us vs them stance. So saying he should have walked away from 2 white kids aggressing him is bothersome. I get that but I don't think anyone saying he should have walked away or at least not me is looking at it from that perspective. Speaking for myself im looking at it purely as kids at a school event getting into a senseless altercation that left one kid dead and another going to prison. The racial element is a layer but I would take the same stance if all the kids were black or all the kids were white or if the races were reversed. So outside of the fact all the jurors were white and gave him that fucked up sentence the race element is irrelevant to me.

 

[O.G.]

Just for shit and giggles, I searched Google for "when is the last time a white man was convicted of murder of a black man." It took me all the way back to 2021. SMH, This can't be true.

 

[Inori]

Turning the cheek is this case (pause) isn’t really meant as turning the cheek but more so walking away and or avoiding an overblown situation that didn’t need to come even close to what had occurred.

Black parent/kids gotta be taught the very obvious that here there’s still not an apple to apples comparison. Two humans can be in the same scenario, doing the same thing, facing the same “what if” or consequences only difference is the color or their skin. The odds are very much in the favor for the white then the black.. it’s a horrible situation but thats still is today’s reality.

I was told something similar from my parents very young and although I didn’t fully understand then why we all wasn’t judged or treated the same like how it was within the family, it made more and more sense later in life, and thats coming from a very mixed family. Once you was outside them walls and in the real world is became very obvious.

Why? They're children at school. Thats the reasonable decision to make especially with adults around.

Maybe the disconnect is some of you are looking at the altercation as racially motivated and taking an us vs them stance. So saying he should have walked away from 2 white kids aggressing him is bothersome. I get that but I don't think anyone saying he should have walked away or at least not me is looking at it from that perspective. Speaking for myself im looking at it purely as kids at a school event getting into a senseless altercation that left one kid dead and another going to prison. The racial element is a layer but I would take the same stance if all the kids were black or all the kids were white or if the races were reversed. So outside of the fact all the jurors were white and gave him that fucked up sentence the race element is irrelevant to me.

I can admit im looking at it with race for sure being a major factor in the lens im viewing this in.

like I said I get the logic in whats being said here, i do.. Im still just bothered by the shit and indignities we're just expected to just shrug off thats all im sayin

 

[Freeman]

I can admit im looking at it with race for sure being a major factor in the lens im viewing this in.

like I said I get the logic in whats being said here, i do.. Im still just bothered by the shit and indignities we're just expected to just shrug off thats all im sayin

It just sounded like you were mad at people (me) specifically. I don't think anyone is saying or implying black people shouldn't be upset about dealing with that.

 

[Inori]

It just sounded like you were mad at people (me) specifically. I don't think anyone is saying or implying black people shouldn't be upset about dealing with that.

wasnt directed at you specifically. I was catching up on the thread and i just seen one too many posts saying he should have just walked away, gone to another tent etc. and the shit just bothered me

Sure that makes logical sense but at the same time.. the fuck.. Some random ass person comes up to you starting shit and telling you to leave and initiates some bullshit and you just gotta eat that and walk off?

Again, stabbing the mf was overboard no doubt... but I find myself in a rare occasion where Im agreeing with this mf CTB

Y'all saying Melo should have had restraint but where was the restraint from the other side. Mercalf escalated shit

^^ I guess I saw more comments in here calling for him to be the bigger person and less comments on how that mf shoulda minded his business and thats what set me off

 

[Chi-Town B]

It was race based, black people can't defend themselves against white aggression.

 

[Freeman]

wasnt directed at you specifically. I was catching up on the thread and i just seen one too many posts saying he should have just walked away, gone to another tent etc. and the shit just bothered me

Sure that makes logical sense but at the same time.. the fuck.. Some random ass person comes up to you starting shit and telling you to leave and initiates some bullshit and you just gotta eat that and walk off?

Again, stabbing the mf was overboard no doubt... but I find myself in a rare occasion where Im agreeing with this mf CTB



^^ I guess I saw more comments in here calling for him to be the bigger person and less comments on how that mf shoulda minded his business and thats what set me off

Like I said before 2 things can be true.

But to be clear I think walking away was the best and most reasonable course of action in a situation he didn't start as opposed to him stabbing someone. I would have zero qualms about him punching that kid in his fucking face like he deserved. Thats not what happened tho.

As for the agreeing with ctb part. I'll pray for you.

 

[Freeman]

It was race based, black people can't defend themselves against white aggression.

He very well could have defended himself. He didn't need to put a knife in someone's chest to do it.

 

[Inori]

Like I said before 2 things can be true.

But to be clear I think walking away was the best and most reasonable course of action in a situation he didn't start as opposed to him stabbing someone. I would have zero qualms about him punching that kid in his fucking face like he deserved. Thats not what happened tho.

As for the agreeing with ctb part. I'll pray for you.

lol and cosign

 

[Chi-Town B]

He very well could have defended himself. He didn't need to put a knife in someone's chest to do it.

Against a dude who had 100lbs or close to it, yea he did.

 

[Chi-Town B]

Pick a side and stay on it @Inori . Don't let these dudes guilt you because a white boy had zero awareness and fucked around and found out

 

[Inori]

Pick a side and stay on it @Inori . Don't let these dudes guilt you because a white boy had zero awareness and fucked around and found out

my stance hasnt changed

 

[Freeman]

Against a dude who had 100lbs or close to it, yea he did.

No tf he did not. If he knew dude had 100 lbs on him then all the more reason to walk away. If he was determined stand on it he was supposed to throw hands. It was not a life or death issue where he needed to stab anyone and they needed to die. Foh with that nonsense.

 

[Chi-Town B]

And that's what I teach both my kids... My son wrestles... My daughter is 9, but she knows how to box and had obviously wrestled with her big brother...

I constantly tell them... Unless you feel absolutely cornered and threatened... Walk away. Most people can't fight, and wanna prove they are tough... Y'all know how to handle yourselves.... You have shit to lose, you don't have shit to prove.... Let small people feel big, and don't get pulled into something you know you can walk away from...

We went over a lot of this in the hitting kids back thread.... But the is worse case scenario.... Lil bro 100% could have walked away ...

But he didn't, and now we here. Shits sad.

He could have walked away but why should he, Melo was minding his own business and he was the one that got assaulted.

 

[Freeman]

All you niggas mr.murder when it's not you facing a sentence. Foh.

 

[Chi-Town B]

You dudes have posted for years about not walking away and meeting aggression with aggression but expected a teen to do so.

 

[Freeman]

You dudes have posted for years about not walking away and meeting aggression with aggression but expected a teen to do so.

There's levels to aggression and how you escalate it. Im not out here just wildin out and I have never stabbed anyone.

I'll say it again since you want to keep on ignoring it. If he had punched buddy in his mouth like he deserved I wouldn't have a problem with it. If he wasn't going to walk away throwing hands was an option. He stabbed and killed someone tho. There are things that typically come with that. Im not getting behind that.

 

[Duwop]

He could have walked away but why should he, Melo was minding his own business and he was the one that got assaulted.

I always give myself the grounding day scenario.

If you were stuck in a forever loop and had to relive this day over and over again.... Each day changing a thing or two to get a different outcome.... Do you still fight and stab the kid, or do you realize it's not worth it?

I think most people would recognize even with the smallest clarity that it's not worth it. And I've been considered a hot head in many situations
. As have my son... But in this conflict the consequences ended up being way too high. Everything doesn't need a reaction..... You may want to react,
But you don't NEED to... You don't HAVE to....

Wanting to, and having the opportunity to think about it, means you could have just said "Man fuck y'all" and kept it moving.... Cuz now we looking at 30 years or whatever his sentence is..

And like I said easier, 30 seconds ain't worth 30 years... We gotta be able to see the trap before we react

 

[Duwop]

You dudes have posted for years about not walking away and meeting aggression with aggression but expected a teen to do so.

I actually have a fascination with fist fights..I scroll thru them daily... But the older I get the more and more I recognize the importance of just not doing it.

There's mad reasons.

I once cut my fist on someone's teeth.
What if they had HIV and AIDS.... My fist was bleeding with their tooth in between my knuckles. I could have exposed myself. What if they had a bloody lip and that blood got into my cut... Like it's just not worth it