Spend That (Wicked ass Song or Is that Your Jam)

The Lonious Monk said:
I can't agree with this. I get where you're coming from and it would be nice if we all could think like that, but we really can't. This stuff is too influential nowadays. Yes, negative stuff was around when we were coming up too, but it wasn't impacting us the same. Little girls weren't looking up to Lil Kim in the same that some of these young chicks look up to the chicks you named. Like women were really spazzin out over Klay cheating on Megan because of how much they respect Megan. No one cared who Khia or Trina were getting cheated on by 20 years ago.
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I cared...

Trina is a goddess 😭
 
konceptjones said:
Because there was. When was the last time you heard something afrocentric, positive, or uplifting on the radio? When was the last time you heard straight lyricism on some "Battle the unknown MC" shits? Maybe some silly shit like Redman, Biz, or Sir Mix A Lot made? How about some dance shit? Shit, niggas had a whole era of that in the mid 00's, where did that go?

Naw, it's murder death kill spin the block on the opps pussy eat ass suck dick scam he ain't got money shit on the radio now and aside from the odd Drake or Kendriock joint, that's really about it.

Think about this: The remix to BDP's "You Must Learn" hit #15 on the Hot Rap Singles chart. De La Soul's "Me Myself and I" was #1 on the Hot Rap Singles chart and peaked at #34 on the Hot 100 while Biz Markie's "Just A Friend" cracked the top 10 at #9 on the Hot 100 and #1 on the Hot Rap Singles chart. Hammer was #1 across the board with some of his shit, and that's with niggas clownin' him for being too commercial. PE had the #4 album in the country with Apocalypse 91...Enemy Strikes Black. Das EFX hit #1 on the Hot Rap Singles chart and #36 on the Hot 100 with "The Want EFX".

I could go on... But the real question is: When was the last time we had any sort of diversity in hip hop like that on the radio?
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I don't listen to the radio in my car. I'm either listening to a podcast or whatever music is playing off my phone. So I couldn't tell you what is and isn't on the radio. But i do remember growing up and there wasn't much "positive" rap being played on the radio then either. Radio itself is formulaic to the market. I grew up in DC. When they did play rap it wasn't Redman lol. Which is why i said your complaint has being said since folks were litetally usikg steam rollers to crush rap cds in protest of the content 30+ years ago.And the few times I do listen to the radio if im in my wife's car, its on Sirius xm which plays everything so thats not really accurate either.

But I can tell you that despite that song being popular, look at what is actually most rewarded and help up as a standard of music. Clipse been winning every award you can name for their album still a year later. Wale got plenty of rappity raps on his album and is on a sold out tour. Kendrick had a 2 year run and GNX has plenty of introspection on it. I say that to say...the balance is there and the artist who actually see real success aren't the one with one off songs like Spend It. She might get a few club dates but ain't nobody anticipating an album full of songs from her
 
Duwop said:
Yo imagine if the Internet was around when Shirley Murdock dropped that BANGER "Ass we lay "
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Naw bro, how bout Alicia Myers got a song where she thanking God for some dick....

And you know the song about dick....

Cuz the opening bars are " I wanna thank you, Heavenly Father, for shining your light on me"

Yet we never heard this song sung in church once....


Cuz it's about fucking. The Internet would have tore this shit up, cuz you know church folks and prudes ain't like neither one of them songs.
 
Duwop said:
Not the first basketball player I cut off for a chick....
I ever tell you about Darius Miles bitch ass?
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BlackRain said:
I don't listen to the radio in my car. I'm either listening to a podcast or whatever music is playing off my phone. So I couldn't tell you what is and isn't on the radio. But i do remember growing up and there wasn't much "positive" rap being played on the radio then either. Radio itself is formulaic to the market. I grew up in DC. When they did play rap it wasn't Redman lol. Which is why i said your complaint has being said since folks were litetally usikg steam rollers to crush rap cds in protest of the content 30+ years ago.And the few times I do listen to the radio if im in my wife's car, its on Sirius xm which plays everything so thats not really accurate either.

But I can tell you that despite that song being popular, look at what is actually most rewarded and help up as a standard of music. Clipse been winning every award you can name for their album still a year later. Wale got plenty of rappity raps on his album and is on a sold out tour. Kendrick had a 2 year run and GNX has plenty of introspection on it. I say that to say...the balance is there and the artist who actually see real success aren't the one with one off songs like Spend It. She might get a few club dates but ain't nobody anticipating an album full of songs from her
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I mean... In the 90's there was definitely a balance of positive and lyrical shit on the radio. KRS was still viable as late as '97, when his album "I Got Next" peaked at #3 on the Billboard Top 200 and had songs in rotation. Common had singles on the air as did Tribe and De La. Masta Ace's biggest single stayed in rotation and assorted backpacker shits could be heard here and there on the radio. I've made the point in the past that BlackStar's "Respiration" and, in particular, "Definition" were in heavy enough rotation that they stayed at the top of the Rap City top 10 for weeks on end.

If you didn't hear it, you didn't hear it, but I'm tellin' you it was balanced and being played. Maybe it's just where you grew up versus where I was at.
 
mryounggun said:
The fact that that's where a lot of people still get their music doesn't negate the point that the radio is the wrong litmus test for whether or not there is diversity in rap.
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I never said there was no diversity in rap. I EXPLICITLY said it was about what types of rap is being played on the radio.
 
konceptjones said:
I mean... In the 90's there was definitely a balance of positive and lyrical shit on the radio. KRS was still viable as late as '97, when his album "I Got Next" peaked at #3 on the Billboard Top 200 and had songs in rotation. Common had singles on the air as did Tribe and De La. Masta Ace's biggest single stayed in rotation and assorted backpacker shits could be heard here and there on the radio. I've made the point in the past that BlackStar's "Respiration" and, in particular, "Definition" were in heavy enough rotation that they stayed at the top of the Rap City top 10 for weeks on end.

If you didn't hear it, you didn't hear it, but I'm tellin' you it was balanced and being played. Maybe it's just where you grew up versus where I was at.
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Yeah Blackstar wasn't in radio rotation in DC lol. DC has always leaned more towards southern rappers so that's mainly what we got outside of the bigger national hits. Now videos is different because a show like Rap City or even watching The Box where you order videos was built for jist that. Different types of music. You'd get songs like The Blast followed by Trick Daddy followed by Eminem followed by Dogg Pound. But you gotta remember radio back then outside of morning shows was very regional. So depending on what your market responded to determined what got put into rotation. And even with that balance people still complained that raunchy and sexually explicit and violent lyrics were too much. Like i said they literally were steam rolling Snoop Dogg and others cds in the middle of the street. Protesting outside concerts and award shows. The balance wasn't that balanced main stream wise even though people like to remember it more fondly.
 
konceptjones said:
I mean... In the 90's there was definitely a balance of positive and lyrical shit on the radio. KRS was still viable as late as '97, when his album "I Got Next" peaked at #3 on the Billboard Top 200 and had songs in rotation. Common had singles on the air as did Tribe and De La. Masta Ace's biggest single stayed in rotation and assorted backpacker shits could be heard here and there on the radio. I've made the point in the past that BlackStar's "Respiration" and, in particular, "Definition" were in heavy enough rotation that they stayed at the top of the Rap City top 10 for weeks on end.

If you didn't hear it, you didn't hear it, but I'm tellin' you it was balanced and being played. Maybe it's just where you grew up versus where I was at.
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Self destruction, you heading for self destruction. I remember that being played heavy on the radio and me making a change.

I agree, the balance dont exist. For every Yung Miami we had a Queen Latifah etc

This shit here is just man...how do you tell your nieces that this shit just pure evil

Then you calling out, where the scamming ass niggas.

Prompting niggas to be on scamming energy.

Which brings on more violence
 
Ghetto Boys had this song called The World is A Ghetto

Goodie Mob, Black Ice

We went from that to a chick saying Spend dat shit...

Where my scamming ass niggas at smh.
 
mryounggun said:
I don't think that song has any effect on 'the culture' at all.

'The culture' is the exact same now as it was before that song came out.
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Kool.

If you walk into a classroom where its being played 5th grade, you dont find anything wrong with that?

Im talking bout this song. This one
 
mryounggun said:
I don't think that song has any effect on 'the culture' at all.

'The culture' is the exact same now as it was before that song came out.
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And if its not this song that doesn't have any effect on the culture, in your opinion are there any rap or rb songs that do?

Positivity or Negatively
 
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