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Penta, identified as a former Lucha Underground Champion, debuted on tonight's edition of Monday Night Raw, defeating Chad Gable before cutting a post-match promo in the ring. His family was shown sitting in the front row. The WWE audience in San Jose was very familiar with Penta and his catch phrase.

We have had readers ask whether Penta was hurt during the bout, but in asking around, we are told he was selling his leg.

We did confirm that between the 13 minute match and his post-match promo, Penta went way longer than he was initially planned to go, which led to time being trimmed from other segments later in the show. There were some talents obviously not thrilled about that, as you can imagine.

That said, we are told management was happy with the debut and with Penta's reaction live.

WWE already has a ton of new merchandise for Penta on sale. We are told internally, they were happy with the early merch numbers as well.

He is officially on the Raw brand.
 


Mans is NOT happy about being sent down to NXT


Graves was recently moved to the WWE NXT brand after WWE shuffled the deck with announcing teams with the onset of new TV deals, setting Michael Cole and Pat McAfee as the voices of Raw for the Netflix premiere while Joe Tessitore and Wade Barrett became the voices of Smackdown. This left Graves on the outs, with him shifting to the #3 man on the NXT New Year's Evil broadcast team last week.

PWInsider.com can confirm there had been rumblings over the last several weeks that Graves wasn't happy with his positioning within the company, something his social media posting would certainly seem to confirm. Graves' tweet leaves very little to the imagination as he is very clearly placing blame on the fact that he doesn't carry the fame or clout of McAfee and/or Tessitore as the reason he is not on Raw or Smackdown going forward.

Certainly Graves wasn't moved based on the quality of his work as I don't believe anyone would argue he's NOT good at his job. Clearly, he is, so something else is going on here.

We are told Graves is currently scheduled for tonight's NXT broadcast on the CW Network. Whether his tweet is an indication of bigger issues remains to be seen, but it does not come across as if Graves is happy. Graves' comment about "where he's been" given he was just on the CW Network within the last week working for the company very much gives that away. Stay tuned.
 
Should have sent Mcafee to NXT since he's not going to be around when football season starts.

They not gonna pay that man all that money just to go to NXT. Sucks for Cory but football season starts 8 months from now. He’ll probably be back on Raw then.
 
Penta, identified as a former Lucha Underground Champion, debuted on tonight's edition of Monday Night Raw, defeating Chad Gable before cutting a post-match promo in the ring. His family was shown sitting in the front row. The WWE audience in San Jose was very familiar with Penta and his catch phrase.

We have had readers ask whether Penta was hurt during the bout, but in asking around, we are told he was selling his leg.

We did confirm that between the 13 minute match and his post-match promo, Penta went way longer than he was initially planned to go, which led to time being trimmed from other segments later in the show. There were some talents obviously not thrilled about that, as you can imagine.

That said, we are told management was happy with the debut and with Penta's reaction live.

WWE already has a ton of new merchandise for Penta on sale. We are told internally, they were happy with the early merch numbers as well.

He is officially on the Raw brand.
But… the show ended 30 minutes early???

This doesn’t make much sense.
 
Penta, identified as a former Lucha Underground Champion, debuted on tonight's edition of Monday Night Raw, defeating Chad Gable before cutting a post-match promo in the ring. His family was shown sitting in the front row. The WWE audience in San Jose was very familiar with Penta and his catch phrase.

We have had readers ask whether Penta was hurt during the bout, but in asking around, we are told he was selling his leg.

We did confirm that between the 13 minute match and his post-match promo, Penta went way longer than he was initially planned to go, which led to time being trimmed from other segments later in the show. There were some talents obviously not thrilled about that, as you can imagine.

That said, we are told management was happy with the debut and with Penta's reaction live.

WWE already has a ton of new merchandise for Penta on sale. We are told internally, they were happy with the early merch numbers as well.

He is officially on the Raw brand.
I get what Black is saying how is other segments trimmed if Nextflix doesn't have a time frame to work with and the show ended right after the 2 hr mark??

Lol I feel this is false reporting at its
finest.
 
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I get what Black is saying how is other segments trimmed if Nextflix doesn't have a time frame to work with and the shower ended right after the 2 hr mark??

Lol I feel this is false reporting at its
finest.

So…

Which disgruntled employee is likely to be fired for leaking this easily verifiable nonsense?

Has to be someone painfully dumb.
 
Last night, PWInsider.com reported that the segments involving Penta ran long, leading to later segments being trimmed for time and that obviously, talents were not thrilled about that.

For some reason, this has become "a thing" on social media among those who didn't actually read what was written here, but saw a version shared on those platforms.

So, let's run this back and break it down for those who want to projectile vomit anger instead of actually reading what was on the site last night.:

Yes, WWE is on Netflx now and that brings greater flexibility in terms of when they finish Raw episodes. Last week, they went over three hours. This week, they ended a little over two and a half hours in. In both cases, that is because that's how WWE decided to time out the shows and when they wanted to go off the air.

Yes, WWE no longer has the "hard out" of having to be off the air by 10 PM or 11 PM Eastern the way they would on The USA Network, but that does NOT mean they plan to run endless amounts of time every week. They are not planning to have a NJPW Wrestle Kingdom six hour broadcast every week just for the hell of it. Once they internally time out a show to be over at a certain time and if they are running over that time, they are going to do whatever they can to get it back into the manageable time frame they WANT the show to end at. Paul Levesque isn't going to look to Bruce Prichard, shrug and say, "Well, Netflix, yo!" and then run an extra hour.

They were timed to go off at 10:30 PM Eastern last night and that's why time was cut after Penta ran long.

WHY?

Why, you ask?

Here's why: When WWE went off the air Monday night, they still were scheduled to present several dark matches live in San Jose. They wanted to get those matches out to the crowd and THEN wanted their taping to be over in a manageable time period. Last week's Raw premiere was essentially treated like a PPV. This week, it was back to normal.

They wanted to be done early enough on West Coast time to allow whatever talents and staff scheduled to take red-eye flights home the ability to do so. They wanted to be done so they didn't accrue overtime charges in the venue they rented, with the local staff they used, with their own crew. None of this is rocket science. It's common sense for a live production. They weren't going to stay in the SAP Center an extra 30 minutes or hour or two hours.

YES, Netflix allows flexibility, but the company is still going to maintain their usual structure and timing. They aren't seeking to be there five hours every week just "because they can that." Whether they are slated to run 2 hours or 4 hours on a specific week, they are still going to work towards maintaining their internal clock where they want the show to end. They aren't seeking to run an extra hour because things are running late.

I totally understand why some would get upset, because they are Penta fans and it was a big night for him. It was. We reported management was happy with his debut and with the early word on merchandise sales. All PWInsider.com reported was the truth, that he went over his time (as did Chad Gable) and some talents who followed him had their time cut. They aren't mad at Penta - but they aren't happy their time was cut. This has happened before and will happen again. It's the nature of live TV. Nothing can ever be perfect.

With the exception of the main event, which ran about 18 minutes later night, everything was shorter than Penta vs. Gable, which ran 13 minutes or so bell to bell. Add in the entrances and the post-match in-ring promo, you can see where the time went and why WWE, if they wanted to keep things on track, had to cut some time elsewhere. That's the nature of live TV. Again, not rocket science. Common sense.

So, for those who asked, there's your answer.

Thanks for reading.
 
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