OPINION Men seem to make life for women worse’: single US women share the woes of dating in 2025

AP4.0 said:
Brother

Is this shit ai? Why homie mouth moving like that

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Nah, he been around for a minute, like 5-6 years. I can remember running across his shit a while ago, he had a couple of funny vids I think I posted up here a couple of years ago.

EDIT: I just found his youtube channel. Damn, dude been around for 11 years.
 
konceptjones said:
Looking for those "good qualities" means just that: Looking. That has absolutely nothing to do with the title of the article; how can a man make their life worse if there's no man actively in their life???

This is why I said you couldn't have possibly have read it.
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Why can't two things be true?
 
Eyerone said:
And peep

The article is plain and simple; it’s women sharing their experiences and the first thing yall niggas do is offer advice like “see they using dating apps, that’s the problem” and other dumb shit like “men have the same issues”. This ain’t about that.

How hard is it to read something, digest it and let it be without having to defend your positioning in all of it?

Take your ego out of it. It’s no need to argue against what’s not there.

It’s just women expressing themselves. That’s it. Read the shit and be like “oh”. Don’t let the headline make you feel like you gotta take a stance. It’s ok.
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It's a message board we here to discuss so that's what we're gonna do

Dating is tough in general, dating apps are even worse if you're looking for something substantive. I tell anyone, man or woman, if they're having trouble, get off them shits.
 
ChicagoFigure said:
It's a message board we here to discuss so that's what we're gonna do

Dating is tough in general, dating apps are even worse if you're looking for something substantive. I tell anyone, man or woman, if they're having trouble, get off them shits.
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Let’s think for a second tho

One of the women that @konceptjones highlighted was 48. The other women in the article were in their 30s to late 40s. Don’t you think that most of these women have tried meeting/dating men in real life outside of apps?

Offering unsolicited and in this case, thoughtless advice is another one of those things men think is helpful. But men being men most times don’t know when to just stfu and listen to what’s being said and not try to provide solutions.
 
Eyerone said:
And peep

The article is plain and simple; it’s women sharing their experiences and the first thing yall niggas do is offer advice like “see they using dating apps, that’s the problem” and other dumb shit like “men have the same issues”. This ain’t about that.

How hard is it to read something, digest it and let it be without having to defend your positioning in all of it?

Take your ego out of it. It’s no need to argue against what’s not there.

It’s just women expressing themselves. That’s it. Read the shit and be like “oh”. Don’t let the headline make you feel like you gotta take a stance. It’s ok.
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It's weird seeing some folks seem like they're personally offended at these articles.
 
ChicagoFigure said:
It's a message board we here to discuss so that's what we're gonna do

Dating is tough in general, dating apps are even worse if you're looking for something substantive. I tell anyone, man or woman, if they're having trouble, get off them shits.
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Well meeting people in person is just as much of a crapshoot. Ain't like that was getting people what they say they want either.
 
Eyerone said:
Let’s think for a second tho

One of the women that @konceptjones highlighted was 48. The other women in the article were in their 30s to late 40s. Don’t you think that most of these women have tried meeting/dating men in real life outside of apps?

Offering unsolicited and in this case, thoughtless advice is another one of those things men think is helpful
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My comment was directed at the women who, in the article, explicitly stated they use dating apps.

I'm not offering advice bc those women aren't on this website. It's a message board.
 
Eyerone said:
And peep

The article is plain and simple; it’s women sharing their experiences and the first thing yall niggas do is offer advice like “see they using dating apps, that’s the problem” and other dumb shit like “men have the same issues”. This ain’t about that.

How hard is it to read something, digest it and let it be without having to defend your positioning in all of it?

Take your ego out of it. It’s no need to argue against what’s not there.

It’s just women expressing themselves. That’s it. Read the shit and be like “oh”. Don’t let the headline make you feel like you gotta take a stance. It’s ok.
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What is the point of the thread then? Was everyone supposed to come in here and say "ok"? Nothing more than a article with a clickbait title that was either disingenuous or didn't look to actually look to show evidence of what it asserted got the reactions it intended to imo. 🤷🏿‍♂️
 
The part about men being drawn into the Incel and Trump shit is really real. Yall remember the MeToo movement and how niggas acted like they were going to be targeted just for having sex. A lot of that shit turned women off. Then we have the relationship beef podcasts that been fucking with folks for a minute.

Folks viewing women as OF models. Women viewing men as tricks.

Idk who has teen daughters that are dating age but what yall think about how young dudes carry stuff. I don’t be around too many teenagers so idk if they in some red pill shit. It don’t seem like black boys be in that shit as a teen.
 
Eyerone said:
Let’s think for a second tho

One of the women that @konceptjones highlighted was 48. The other women in the article were in their 30s to late 40s. Don’t you think that most of these women have tried meeting/dating men in real life outside of apps?

Offering unsolicited and in this case, thoughtless advice is another one of those things men think is helpful. But men being men most times don’t know when to just stfu and listen to what’s being said and not try to provide solutions.
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What about any of this speaks to men making women's lives worse?

Also, that's a two-way street as far as giving unsolicited advice and not knowing when to stfu goes.
 
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BlackRain said:
Well meeting people in person is just as much of a crapshoot. Ain't like that was getting people what they say they want either.
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I agree in person is a crap shoot but I wouldn't say it's "just as much" of a crap shoot. For instance u don't run into bots in real life or catfish.

Im not saying they're not both tough, but in my opinion one is worse than the other, to what degree is up for debate.
 
my hot take...

Dating is far too competitive. It's too flamboyant and dramatic. it's all for show and validation. People are far too defensive, combative, and suspicious of each other. they're skeptical and always afraid of being used , played or being embarrassed. and all these things translate into a horrible dating experience...

The shit just isn't fun. People are more worried about strategizing their date to expose themselves as little as possible while getting the most out of the other person. They treat it like a video game or puzzle. How to get the most outta this person without giving too much of myself away.

I honestly feel dating should just be about getting to know a person and having fun with them. If yall had a great time, do it again, if not...keep it moving. But people are too aggressive these days, they treat the shit like a fight or a challenge. if shit don't line up they feel the need to insult the person, or put them because it couldn't possibly be them, it has to be the other person. like someone has to be to blame for the shit not working out...

someone must be fucking up, there must be something to be angry about because two random people didn't immediately hit it off...someone has to be at fault, and imma embarrass and shame them for it before they embarrass and shame me....

That shit kills dating.... but it's like it's the only way people know how to date
 
ChicagoFigure said:
I agree in person is a crap shoot but I wouldn't say it's "just as much" of a crap shoot. For instance u don't run into bots in real life or catfish.

Im not saying they're not both tough, but in my opinion one is worse than the other, to what degree is up for debate.
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Online dating excludes men and women that might have had a chance if they had met in person and they had an actual conversation.
 
Duwop said:
my hot take...

Dating is far too competitive. It's too flamboyant and dramatic. it's all for show and validation. People are far too defensive, combative, and suspicious of each other. they're skeptical and always afraid of being used , played or being embarrassed. and all these things translate into a horrible dating experience...

The shit just isn't fun. People are more worried about strategizing their date to expose themselves as little as possible while getting the most out of it. They treat it like a video game or puzzle. How to get the most outta this person without giving too much of myself away.

I honestly feel dating should just be about getting to know a person and having fun with them. If yall had a great time, do it again, if not...keep it moving. But people are too aggressive these days, they treat the shit like a fight or a challenge. if shit don't line up they feel the need to insult the person, or put them because it couldn't possibly be them, it has to be the other person. like someone has to be to blame for the shit not working out...

someone must be fucking up, there must be something to be angry about because two random people didn't immediately hit it off...someone has to be at fault, and imma embarrass and shame them for it before they embarrass and shame me....

That shit kills dating.... but it's like it's the only way people know how to date
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The bolded is exactly how it used to be back inna day. Plenty of times I went on dates with chicks where I wasn't feeling her afterwards or she wasn't feeling me and it was just that one date. No harm, no foul, I'll at least speak if we run into each other.

All the rest of what you wrote I put squarely on social media setting the expectations of people in the dating world.
 
BlackRain said:
It's weird seeing some folks seem like they're personally offended at these articles.
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Lol, same thing I be trying to tell you all when yall be in those Trump thread crying, when shit don't even affect you all unless it does.

You not missing no meals

It's funny how you can say it's weird in a case like this but not in other cases.

If it doesn't apply, let it fly
 
social media is definitely at play, cuz again...everybody wanna embarrass somebody...

say a date isn't the best....instead of jus letting the shit ride, everybody wanna go online to complain to the entire world about the date, and try to make a whole amateur comedy routine on how horrible the other person was... like they will never see it...

like i joke about medium rare steaks as well... but i'm not gonna go online and try to embarass a chick cus she likes her steaks well done...

most niggaz will....niggaz and chicks can't wait to run online and talk shit about their dates....like damn... you had to kinda like this person a little bit before yall went out?? right??

that's prolly the other issue...

people not even dating people they like....

they just dating people they can show off. Either she's bad as fuck, or he got money...that's the motivation for dating...

not "i swear there wasn't a moment when i wasn't laughing my ass off"
 
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