Too harsh or good father and son moment?

AP4.0 said:
If the parent not gonna say anything, what makes you think Imma stick my neck out for them
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Imo, most dudes are not the same.

Some was raised in different settings.

A dude from a different background may talk like that to his kid because his father talked to him like that..
That's how he was spoken to when he faced challenges.

One father may give it to their kid in a different way or manner.

Both messages are being presented to help the kid.

Its many approaches that you as a father can take.
 
Knock_Twice said:
Imo, most dudes are not the same.

Some was raised in different settings.

A dude from a different background may talk like that to his kid because his father talked to him like that..
That's how he was spoken to when he faced challenges.

One father may give it to their kid in a different way or manner.

Both messages are being presented to help the kid.

Its many approaches that you as a father can take.
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Just stop fam
 
konceptjones said:
Choke a kid???

Surely you called the cops, right?
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It was an IG video, but it was local, and the same league my son was playing middle school FLAG FOOTBALL in ... Fucking flag

And the worst part was the comments were divided, because people were heavily pushing the narrative of how the coach was a father figure in the kids life and how the kid should be grateful and not crashing out

I'm like BRUH my son crashes out from time to time, and I never choked my child the fuck out
He's spoiled, entitled, and ungrateful at times... And I've never choked him out.

Like I'm his actual father, and he isn't the perfect kid... And I've never choked him out.

I'm not defending a non in parent doing that shit.....I don't give a fuck how much you do for that kid, if you feel the need to choke him out, you clearly doing too much. Cuz your children will test you... And that's not your kid bro
 
AP4.0 said:
Just stop fam
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No difference than pocket watching on how dudes or women may spend their own money.

I dont like the way she spends her check when she 1st get it... lol

Thats her or his own money.

You spend your money on stocks and bonds they spend it on liquor. Its their money

But I digress
 
Knock_Twice said:
No difference than pocket watching on how dudes or women may spend their own money.

I dont like the way she spends her check when she 1st get it... lol

Thats her or his own money.

You spend your money on stocks and bonds they spend it on liquor. Its their money

But I digress
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Yeah bro, you stay reaching on how you try to tie shit together..

This a Reed Richards, Plastic Man stretch....

You use money
You love your child...

How you use your money is your business.
I ain't going through physical pain cuz a nigga put a goofy ass bumper sticker on a $400,000 car.... It's silly, but I ain't tripping.

But if I see a Dad, Mom, or Coach jacking up his 10 year old kid for losing a wrestling match in some over aggressive bullying and abusive shit.....I might be inclined to speak up.

Cuz the Mom's be going overboard too... They don't even understand the fucking sport, but wanna bully their kid for being upset he lost. We've pulled a few mom's on our team back....

One of my old hang out buddies be extra hard on his kid, and it's literally his first year, I've pulled him to the side a few times on some man 2 man shit... Like bruh... Your kid is still new, he's learning, he's actually progressing better than most first year kids.... Don't make him hate this shit.... He's getting better.

Like adults be angry as fuck for no reason. Let kids be kids and have fun with the sport


But watching someone hurt a kid??
 
Like I actually use that shit with training my son....I'll cuss at him... But it's in great context.

I once told him there's a lotta Dad's out here who really hate their lives, and over compensate by pushing their son's to be the greatest in the world....

You're not beating those kids. It's obsessive. It's abusive. It 100 % exists.... You're going to one day wrestle the son of a maniac. The ONLY way you don't get absolutely killed.... Is to work fucking harder.
 
Yeah that shit was over the top and more performative for the father than actually instilling something positive in that kid. It's one thing to say "the world don't care" but to be on some "I don't care about your feelings" and "you shouldn't even care about your feelings" as their parent...can't cosign that. How you gonna teach self confidence while telling them not to care about how they feel. That's a huge component of being confident is learning to regulate your emotions not ignore or pretend they don't exist.

There's ways to instilling confidence and determination in your kids without talking to them like they strangers on the street. Especially your son. You don't gotta break them down. You supposed to build them up.
 
Duwop said:
Yeah bro, you stay reaching on how you try to tie shit together..

This a Reed Richards, Plastic Man stretch....

You use money
You love your child...

How you use your money is your business.
I ain't going through physical pain cuz a nigga put a goofy ass bumper sticker on a $400,000 car.... It's silly, but I ain't tripping.

But if I see a Dad, Mom, or Coach jacking up his 10 year old kid for losing a wrestling match in some over aggressive bullying and abusive shit.....I might be inclined to speak up.

Cuz the Mom's be going overboard too... They don't even understand the fucking sport, but wanna bully their kid for being upset he lost. We've pulled a few mom's on our team back....

One of my old hang out buddies be extra hard on his kid, and it's literally his first year, I've pulled him to the side a few times on some man 2 man shit... Like bruh... Your kid is still new, he's learning, he's actually progressing better than most first year kids.... Don't make him hate this shit.... He's getting better.

Like adults be angry as fuck for no reason. Let kids be kids and have fun with the sport


But watching someone hurt a kid??
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Bruh the number of parents that got kicked out of the gym in my son's basketball league this season was ridiculous. They take it more seriously than the kids do. Cussing out and screaming at the refs. Threatening to fight or do worse. Had 1 kid whose Dad got a charge because he walked onto the court mid game and tried to fight the ref over a traveling call and had to physically be carried out the gym by the security. These kids is 8-9 years old. They all travel when dribbling damn near. The look of embarrassment on that kid's face is etched into my brain. I felt so bad for him you could tell he just wanted to leave the gym.
 
The only time I went off at a wrestling match was when this kid pinned my son, but mushed his head at the end of the match and tried to whisper "bitch"...

But we all heard him on the side of the mat.

Now, in context, my son has given me endless challenges in getting into fights and us going back n forth about if he was in the right.... It just is what it is, another reason I waited to get him into sports...I needed him to be more mature and coachable... Cuz he's a lot... Any way... My son, the tough guy, loses a match. Gets pinned... But the mushing, calling him a bitch, if I'm not standing right there, my son is 100% swinging on this kid immediately... But he looks at me like "Dad?"

So I walk on to the mat, and the ref looks at me, and I'm like bruh, did you not just hear that kid call my son a bitch?!

And the kid, his dad, and his coach tried to protest that he didn't .. And the parents and entire sideline of unrelated parents and families all started arguing back and it was getting kinda hot, and I was like

Naw, stop, stop, stop, we all heard him... Now what we not bout to do is go back in forth... We going to teach accountability, teach sportsmanship, and teach these kids how to handle situations like the professionals we want them to be.... Cuz I promise you (and then I used my deep nigga voice) AIN'T NO BITCHES OVER HERE! 🧐

The two kids shook hands, the ref held up the other kid hand. They shook the other coaches hands... And everybody had their day.

And I told my son... All you gotta do is wrestle, don't let no kids get in your head...I got your back regardless.

So I mean, I know it's niggas in here who hate my stories... Like I gotta main character complex or whatever the fuck... But I'm just telling my story. You ain't gotta coach your kids angry just to let them know you passionate. But a lotta these adults be wilding
 
Duwop said:
Yeah bro, you stay reaching on how you try to tie shit together..

This a Reed Richards, Plastic Man stretch....

You use money
You love your child...

How you use your money is your business.
I ain't going through physical pain cuz a nigga put a goofy ass bumper sticker on a $400,000 car.... It's silly, but I ain't tripping.

But if I see a Dad, Mom, or Coach jacking up his 10 year old kid for losing a wrestling match in some over aggressive bullying and abusive shit.....I might be inclined to speak up.

Cuz the Mom's be going overboard too... They don't even understand the fucking sport, but wanna bully their kid for being upset he lost. We've pulled a few mom's on our team back....

One of my old hang out buddies be extra hard on his kid, and it's literally his first year, I've pulled him to the side a few times on some man 2 man shit... Like bruh... Your kid is still new, he's learning, he's actually progressing better than most first year kids.... Don't make him hate this shit.... He's getting better.

Like adults be angry as fuck for no reason. Let kids be kids and have fun with the sport


But watching someone hurt a kid??
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My main point is let ppl raise their kids how they feel.

As far as of the video, this is something im not mad at.

All my point on my end was, I dont parent parents.
 
BlackRain said:
Bruh the number of parents that got kicked out of the gym in my son's basketball league this season was ridiculous. They take it more seriously than the kids do. Cussing out and screaming at the refs. Threatening to fight or do worse. Had 1 kid whose Dad got a charge because he walked onto the court mid game and tried to fight the ref over a traveling call and had to physically be carried out the gym by the security. These kids is 8-9 years old. They all travel when dribbling damn near. The look of embarrassment on that kid's face is etched into my brain. I felt so bad for him you could tell he just wanted to leave the gym.
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I said this, this is wrong but parents turn a blind eye when its the coach
 
Duwop said:
Yeah bro, you stay reaching on how you try to tie shit together..

This a Reed Richards, Plastic Man stretch....

You use money
You love your child...

How you use your money is your business.
I ain't going through physical pain cuz a nigga put a goofy ass bumper sticker on a $400,000 car.... It's silly, but I ain't tripping.

But if I see a Dad, Mom, or Coach jacking up his 10 year old kid for losing a wrestling match in some over aggressive bullying and abusive shit.....I might be inclined to speak up.

Cuz the Mom's be going overboard too... They don't even understand the fucking sport, but wanna bully their kid for being upset he lost. We've pulled a few mom's on our team back....

One of my old hang out buddies be extra hard on his kid, and it's literally his first year, I've pulled him to the side a few times on some man 2 man shit... Like bruh... Your kid is still new, he's learning, he's actually progressing better than most first year kids.... Don't make him hate this shit.... He's getting better.

Like adults be angry as fuck for no reason. Let kids be kids and have fun with the sport


But watching someone hurt a kid??
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I guess i look at it Ike if nobody is going to tell the dad in the Op, on spot he's awful, this that and the 3rd, hes a bad dad...then what we doing in here saying it.??

I guess I am looking at it that way...
He doing what hes doing and who am I to go up to buddy and say, man chill out, you talking to you son wrong, use these words.

Im looking at it from that stance, what folks are doing in real time...

Your child you do it your way...his child, tell him to do it your way...in real time

Im responding from a real time pov...hes awful...cool

Well will someone show him to do it the way you or anybody seem fit?
 
AP4.0 said:
Apples and Ferrari's
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He's a bad father in your eyes, awful, kool.... if you seen that live in real time, are you correcting him so that he can
be better and the child can be better according to you.... do it like you??
I don't think you would

Same, with the money, are you telling him how to spend his money?? If he see him blowing it on some liquor instead of doing it like you??

No I don't think you would

Thats my point, if you are not correcting the dad or mom when you see it...then it goes back to, them parents parent their kids how they wanna do...

What works for them....works for them..and what works for you..works for you...

Thats my point... you do it your way...and let them do it their way...


Control whats in your house...

But yall got it
 
AP4.0 said:
@The Lonious Monk

You co-sign this?
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He's saying he'd soften it.

First, what exactly is your problem with what the father did. Most people think his intentions were ok, but he was too harsh with the delivery. Do you agree with that or do you think he was just wrong all the way around? If you do agree, then Knock, while waffling a bit, is saying basically the same thing.
 
We gotta start protecting the ears of the children. Of course, they're going to hear profanity when they get older, but let's make it cool again to protect the innocence of children. It's getting out of hand these days. Little children gotta hear the most raunchy music because the parents still don't know how to grow up
 
The Lonious Monk said:
He's saying he'd soften it.

First, what exactly is your problem with what the father did. Most people think his intentions were ok, but he was too harsh with the delivery. Do you agree with that or do you think he was just wrong all the way around? If you do agree, then Knock, while waffling a bit, is saying basically the same thing.
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If you think I have an issue with a father trying to motivate their child, that's the first issue

He could've done all the motivating in the world and didn't have to use a single curse word

And telling a young boy fuck his feelings just feeds into toxic masculinity to train him up to think expressing his feelings is a bad thing.

Telling a child "you can do hard things" = good
Telling a child "fuck your feelings, the world don't care about yo feelings = bad

What is there to debate here

People be so quick to ruin a child's innocence by talking to them like adults.
 
AP4.0 said:
If you think I have an issue with a father trying to motivate their child, that's the first issue

He could've done all the motivating in the world and didn't have to use a single curse word

And telling a young boy fuck his feelings just feeds into toxic masculinity to train him up to think expressing his feelings is a bad thing.

Telling a child "you can do hard things" = good
Telling a child "fuck your feelings, the world don't care about yo feelings = bad

What is there to debate here

People be so quick to ruin a child's innocence by talking to them like adults.
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Maybe I just didn't read enough posts, but I don't see where there's a debate. You're saying the same thing a bunch of other people. Even Knock said he probably wouldn't have cursed at him or called him the N word.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
Maybe I just didn't read enough posts, but I don't see where there's a debate. You're saying the same thing a bunch of other people. Even Knock said he probably wouldn't have cursed at him or called him the N word.
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We definitely are interpreting his posts vastly different
 
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