Spend That (Wicked A** Song or Is That Your Jam?)

Knock_Twice said:
Nah Du,

The only reason I say that it's not dead is that folks have been complaining about how much they play the hell out of the Blue Flame song and that other song Folded Clothes, and then they'll play that Top Dawg Law lol You need a lawyer, call Top Dawg LAW.

They got a new ad that dropped this morning, I was in tears crying lmaoo. I love it A. whole rap about Top Dawg Law, ole boy uncle killing it.

As far as radio being how it was in the 90s, yea it's dead, but I think people over 35 still listen to the radio for the most part. I know that over 50 crowd does.

Ricky Smiley and Steve Harvey aint going no where and I'll even tune into the Breakfast Club to see who they are interviewing. Radio is still radio'ing but yea that
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Almost every morning show can be listened to as a podcast
 
BlackRain said:
Her music isn't "doing anything" to the youth. So that wasn't the comparison. The comparison was content of the songs in general on a topic where lyrical content was the topic. And youth ain't relegated to just 5th grade. So yeah there were teens and young adults also listening to those explicit Prince songs too in a time where there was no parental advisory label preventing anyone from buying it. So again if your issue is explicit lyrics being made available with little to no barriers, he's an artist you should've left off that list.
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Her music isn't doing anything to the "youth" according to you. Do you think the "youth" young adults women around world are not trying to emulate the lyrics in her song?

I asked you as a parent, would you play THAT Prince song that you quoted in front of your kid or kids?

Prince did not have 'kids' 5th graders singing his sexual songs at school

Yung Miami has 'kids" 5th graders singing/raping, "Where my scamming ass niggas at"

Let's do this, would you want your 4th grade or 5th grade child, or children saying "Where are my scamming ass niggas at" ? or would you turn a blind eye to it?

If you don't want your kid or kids singing that, you see it as a problem, if you do, then you don't see it as a problem. Kids are singing/rapping this song.

Kids did not sing Prince song.

Let me add more on it:

As I stated, "Where are my scamming ass niggas at" Malcolm X nor Betty Shabezz wouldn't have his kids singing that shit nor would Nelson or Winnie Mandela

Nor would they have their kids listening to a Prince sexual song. Most black parent did not let teens, kids listen to Prince's song.
 
Elzo69Renaissance said:
r and b is dead
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Coco Jones be having some bangers
I still like sza
C breezy still doing him, that link up with the homie Leon for mutt was phenomenal.
As with everything, including the entire premise of the thread .. You gotta wanna listen to it.

I told Spotify to play r n b last night and it's tons of new music out, I don't know most of the artists, but that's MY FAULT bcuz I don't tell Spotify to play be rnb nearly enough.

I'm not going to blame the genre or the culture because I don't request Spotify to play rnb enough. That's all on me.

And that's my logic in this discussion. If I don't wanna hear spend dat, I always have the options to listen to other shit....
 
SeaSnake said:
So you don’t play boogie at all anymore because you used to defend him tooth and nail

Anyway I don’t take this song seriously. Most black people ain’t living in the projects scamming people or shooting people.

And I do think source matters even when it shouldn’t. India Arie criticism is cool because she ain’t on that type of music or vibe.

People do view it funny that folks who been twerking at parties for the last 30’years are up in arms about it. And as I got older I do downplay the impact rap has on regular people
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I don't listen to Boosie, I'm not riding around in my car listening to Boosie, if a song comes across my playlist or something, I'll play it.

Folks in the projects aint scamming? How you know? You don't even live there nor go into the projects to know what folks are doing. You a suburban dude, no harm, but let's not act as if you know what goes on where.
 
Duwop said:
Coco Jones be having some bangers
I still like sza
C breezy still doing him, that link up with the homie Leon for mutt was phenomenal.
As with everything, including the entire premise of the thread .. You gotta wanna listen to it.

I told Spotify to play r n b last night and it's tons of new music out, I don't know most of the artists, but that's MY FAULT bcuz I don't tell Spotify to play be rnb nearly enough.

I'm not going to blame the genre or the culture because I don't request Spotify to play rnb enough. That's all on me.

And that's my logic in this discussion. If I don't wanna hear spend dat, I always have the options to listen to other shit....
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I meant more musically

The traditional rhythm section no longer exists in rhythm and blues
 
BlackRain said:
There's definitely a cycle at play but today the consumer has more power than ever because they have more choices than ever. Also consider that usually what is mainstream is driven by appealing to the youth. And youth culture is not going to be about being responsible and careful and other shit that as you get older you don't view the same. This is also part of the thing is that there's a portion of older folks, 40s and above, who haven't graduated from the idea that youth and popular culture ain't for them and they're no longer the target audience. As somebody older you can curate your own shit devoid of a Young Miami or anything adjacent. But some folks want to continue to indulge in shit not meant for them and complain when they realize it ain't meant for them anymore
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I see chicks 50+ on my timeline lovin' that shit. There's just some folks, young and old alike, that like super ignorant shit, whether music, movies, or tv shows.
 
Elzo69Renaissance said:
I meant more musically

The traditional rhythm section no longer exists in rhythm and blues
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Folks either are listening to R&B oldies are they are listening to cats like E.J. Jones.



This 4 years old but there's more recent shit.



Trai ride genre music, Soul music.

That King George type of music. That's the new so called R&B music. I'm not sure if it's made its way Midwest, East or West coast but down south, that's what we are on as far as R&B music. That genre.

You go into most adult lounges and you will hear a King George or more dudes and chicks who sing in that that genre, it's a slash of R&B, blues and soul mixed.

Mixed in with some of the new school acts
 
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BlackRain said:
Mainstream r&b has become about who can be "the most toxic" and it's sad as hell. But there are some other r&b acts who don't fall in that category who've released some good music
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I was listening to Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway's album over the weekend and it really struck me how it could never be made today because it's not on some toxic shit. They can actually sing too, so that shit really son't fly in today's climate either. I have a bunch of old R&B on vinyl and cassette and it always strikes me how musical it was, and how that shit simply wouldn't work today.
 
Knock_Twice said:
Her music isn't doing anything to the "youth" according to you. Do you think the "youth" young adults women around world are not trying to emulate the lyrics in her song?

I asked you as a parent, would you play THAT Prince song that you quoted in front of your kid or kids?

Prince did not have 'kids' 5th graders singing his sexual songs at school

Yung Miami has 'kids" 5th graders singing/raping, "Where my scamming ass niggas at"

Let's do this, would you want your 4th grade or 5th grade child, or children saying "Where are my scamming ass niggas at" ? or would you turn a blind eye to it?

If you don't want your kid or kids singing that, you see it as a problem, if you do, then you don't see it as a problem. Kids are singing/rapping this song.

Kids did not sing Prince song.

Let me add more on it:

As I stated, "Where are my scamming ass niggas at" Malcolm X nor Betty Shabezz wouldn't have his kids singing that shit nor would Nelson or Winnie Mandela

Nor would they have their kids listening to a Prince sexual song. Most black parent did not let teens, kids listen to Prince's song.
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The song isn't going to make somebody do something they wasn't already doing. As Du said ain't no nursing student about to drop out and start boosting becausr of this song. The song is emulating them because the artist ain't out here scamming. She talking about the people who are. In this case the song was inspired by the people already doing it. Not the other way around. I wouldn't play alot of shit around my kids that even my own parents let fly around me...but that's based on my kids individual personalities more than anything else. Shit in the 90s you had Lil Kim on the radio rapping about being the new Vanessa Del Rio and that was on the radio version of Get Money. Like i said TI was on radio singles calling himself "Pussy Pumper" and nobody batted an eye.

I don't parent according to what others do. I parent based on what's best for my kid for who they are. I don't want my kid singing that song 99.9% because it's a terrible song regardless of the topic. But 2 years ago kids all around was running around screaming "they not like us they not like us" calling Drake a pedophile which is also vulgar as hell and that shit won a Grammy and was used in everything you can imagine. But because it was a good song nobody gave a damn. So the caring about what kids should and shouldn't hear shifts based on more than anything is the shit actually good. People let alot of shit slide if the product is something they enjoy. Which you've already proven. So the real issue is are people willing to call out the shit that even they enjoy or does it only get called it when it's something they don't like?
 
Duwop said:
Coco Jones be having some bangers
I still like sza
C breezy still doing him, that link up with the homie Leon for mutt was phenomenal.
As with everything, including the entire premise of the thread .. You gotta wanna listen to it.

I told Spotify to play r n b last night and it's tons of new music out, I don't know most of the artists, but that's MY FAULT bcuz I don't tell Spotify to play be rnb nearly enough.

I'm not going to blame the genre or the culture because I don't request Spotify to play rnb enough. That's all on me.

And that's my logic in this discussion. If I don't wanna hear spend dat, I always have the options to listen to other shit....
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The bold is something that can't really be debated. There's way too many ways to avoid shit you don't like now. And many more ways to indulge in the shit you do. You can literally create your own bubble.
 
BlackRain said:
The song isn't going to make somebody do something they wasn't already doing. As Du said ain't no nursing student about to drop out and start boosting becausr of this song. The song is emulating them because the artist ain't out here scamming. She talking about the people who are. In this case the song was inspired by the people already doing it. Not the other way around. I wouldn't play alot of shit around my kids that even my own parents let fly around me...but that's based on my kids individual personalities more than anything else. Shit in the 90s you had Lil Kim on the radio rapping about being the new Vanessa Del Rio and that was on the radio version of Get Money. Like i said TI was on radio singles calling himself "Pussy Pumper" and nobody batted an eye.

I don't parent according to what others do. I parent based on what's best for my kid for who they are. I don't want my kid singing that song 99.9% because it's a terrible song regardless of the topic. But 2 years ago kids all around was running around screaming "they not like us they not like us" calling Drake a pedophile which is also vulgar as hell and that shit won a Grammy and was used in everything you can imagine. But because it was a good song nobody gave a damn. So the caring about what kids should and shouldn't hear shifts based on more than anything is the shit actually good. People let alot of shit slide if the product is something they enjoy. Which you've already proven. So the real issue is are people willing to call out the shit that even they enjoy or does it only get called it when it's something they don't like?
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Thank you. I knew you wouldn't, you know better not to do so. If it was something about green eggs and ham, you'll play it.

You aint dumb brotha, not sure why you go all around the world just to land on the same pad as me. You know the song aint shit and it hurts the community in many ways, if it didn't you'll have your kids listening to it.
 
BlackRain said:
The song isn't going to make somebody do something they wasn't already doing. As Du said ain't no nursing student about to drop out and start boosting becausr of this song. The song is emulating them because the artist ain't out here scamming. She talking about the people who are. In this case the song was inspired by the people already doing it. Not the other way around. I wouldn't play alot of shit around my kids that even my own parents let fly around me...but that's based on my kids individual personalities more than anything else. Shit in the 90s you had Lil Kim on the radio rapping about being the new Vanessa Del Rio and that was on the radio version of Get Money. Like i said TI was on radio singles calling himself "Pussy Pumper" and nobody batted an eye.

I don't parent according to what others do. I parent based on what's best for my kid for who they are. I don't want my kid singing that song 99.9% because it's a terrible song regardless of the topic. But 2 years ago kids all around was running around screaming "they not like us they not like us" calling Drake a pedophile which is also vulgar as hell and that shit won a Grammy and was used in everything you can imagine. But because it was a good song nobody gave a damn. So the caring about what kids should and shouldn't hear shifts based on more than anything is the shit actually good. People let alot of shit slide if the product is something they enjoy. Which you've already proven. So the real issue is are people willing to call out the shit that even they enjoy or does it only get called it when it's something they don't like?
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I see what you're doing. You take 1 bar or a line and blow it up and say "look that's bad"

Spend Dat, the entire song is promoting negative shit. Calling Drake a pedo isn't doing shit to the community.

The lyrics in Spend Dat and promoting scamming ass shit is doing more damage to 5th graders.
 
Knock_Twice said:
I don't listen to Boosie, I'm not riding around in my car listening to Boosie, if a song comes across my playlist or something, I'll play it.

Folks in the projects aint scamming? How you know? You don't even live there nor go into the projects to know what folks are doing. You a suburban dude, no harm, but let's not act as if you know what goes on where.
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I said most black people aint living in the projects scamming
 
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