Spend That (Wicked A** Song or Is That Your Jam?)

[AP4.0]

You're taking the bait and letting him drag you away from the point. Stay focused.

I don't get annoyed often but this is annoying cause you accusing me of baiting when you can go to any political thread and see knock is the one that's baiting.

You just said in one post why can't we just have a straight up convo without whataboutism when that's exactly what knock is doing with these scenarios that only support his position which is why he's commonly called a bad faith debater. When he doesn't like the points being made, then it's "if you owned a record label, would you put the song out". Had I actually answered the question, his next question would've been "if you owned a record label and you could only put out one song a year that everybody likes, would you have put this song out".

Knock ain't the ship you wanna be tied at the dock with

So I'ma take a play out of y'all book. Y'all can't refute what I'm saying so you're just calling it baiting.

 

[BlackRain]

Ive heard that song in its entirety once. Sometimes you can't help it hearing it even when you're actively not trying to participate. Me individually choosing to listen or not to listen to a song/artist doesn't stop the song/artist from being promoted or being problematic.

Again you don't have to do all things to have validity in saying one thing.

You don't but you look more hypocritical than most because of your stated stance on who you choose to listen to

 

[BlackRain]

This is not scamming brotha.

Selling something for the low low is not scamming niggas out of money

If i can get a bottle of cologne for 10 bucks why would I pay 150 at the store for the same bottle?

So scamming/boosting isn't related now lol. Ok.

 

[BlackRain]

If she cant produce anything of quality or substance, maybe she needs to be in another profession.

Maybe that's why Hip Hop is at the position it's in now.

She has never been known as a good rapper or somebody rapped about substance. The last half decade she been more known for being Diddy latest arm candy. Which is why it's funny when her entire career been these types of songs and now people are upset.

 

[BlackRain]

2 things can be true. I don't pretend drake isn't part of the problem where as you're being disingenuous trying to pretend there isn't a problem at all or that its a minimal one.

Nah. Im saying that painting this song as some indictment on Black folks as a whole is stupid. One song can't do that. And I've held that stance consistently on multiple topics. I dont rock with the "this song/movie/, etc set Black people back" mentality. I think much higher of us than that. The song is trash, but people enjoy trash music all the time.

 

[Freeman]

I don't get annoyed often but this is annoying cause you accusing me of baiting when you can go to any political thread and see knock is the one that's baiting.

You just said in one post why can't we just have a straight up convo without whataboutism when that's exactly what knock is doing with these scenarios that only support his position which is why he's commonly called a bad faith debater. When he doesn't like the points being made, then it's "if you owned a record label, would you put the song out". Had I actually answered the question, his next question would've been "if you owned a record label and you could only put out one song a year that everybody likes, would you have put this song out".

Knock ain't the ship you wanna be tied at the dock with

So I'ma take a play out of y'all book. Y'all can't refute what I'm saying so you're just calling it baiting.

I wasn't even replying to him replying to you so im gonna do 2 things...

Not read any of the rest of that shit and let you sit with whatever issues you're having.

 

[Knock_Twice]

So scamming/boosting isn't related now lol. Ok.

What you presented is not scamming.

 

[Knock_Twice]

She has never been known as a good rapper or somebody rapped about substance. The last half decade she been more known for being Diddy latest arm candy. Which is why it's funny when her entire career been these types of songs and now people are upset.

So you see the bullshit, let the lowest of the low speak things into our community.

Ppl like her should not have a voice imo if they are putting out information like this

Do you agree or disagree?

 

[Freeman]

You don't but you look more hypocritical than most because of your stated stance on who you choose to listen to

And I said already that im okay with that cause it doesn't change anything im saying in the slightest. You can partake in something while acknowledging it's fucked up.

Trying to pretend it isn't fucked up at all is the weird shit.

You're acting like I'm trying to stand on some moral high ground with my stance and trying to use that against me. That isn't going to work.

 

[Knock_Twice]

Nah. Im saying that painting this song as some indictment on Black folks as a whole is stupid. One song can't do that. And I've held that stance consistently on multiple topics. I dont rock with the "this song/movie/, etc set Black people back" mentality. I think much higher of us than that. The song is trash, but people enjoy trash music all the time.

As whole. Nobody is doing that.
Du said if 5 chicks bop to it and 5 dont go for the 5.

I countered it saying that the 5 that bop to it and take on that mindset is the problem
Thats 50 percent of bullshit on the table to deal with out of the 10 in that example Du presented.

You will have women out here thinking with the mindset of the lyrics and niggas thinking that they wanna be scammers, or go hard on it now because folks are glorifying it.

You dont glorify degenerate behavior is the point that I am making

It needs to stop

 

[Knock_Twice]

You can have nice clean fun without the sex, drugs and violence attributes

But its boring lol

I need that 50 shots to yo neck energy with a jigga to have a blast smh lol

I pray

 

[TheNightKing]

Saw 12 pages and thought damn, song most be on some other shit.

So I went to watch the video on YouTube.

Yeah I’m not getting the outrage.

I don’t like the song or message, but this shit is light compared to other lyrical content that’s been out there since the 90’s.

 

[AP4.0]

I wasn't even replying to him replying to you so im gonna do 2 things...

Not read any of the rest of that shit and let you sit with whatever issues you're having.

You quoted it, you read it so you don't have to pretend

Good talk

 

[Knock_Twice]

And the cycle continues

Im not seeing the hype it was worse back then ass niggas.

The point the lady is saying it to stop accepting the shit.

They'll stop making it

 

[BlackRain]

As whole. Nobody is doing that.
Du said if 5 chicks bop to it and 5 dont go for the 5.

I countered it saying that the 5 that bop to it and take on that mindset is the problem
Thats 50 percent of bullshit on the table to deal with out of the 10 in that example Du presented.

You will have women out here thinking with the mindset of the lyrics and niggas thinking that they wanna be scammers, or go hard on it now because folks are glorifying it.

You dont glorify degenerate behavior is the point that I am making

It needs to stop

And what Du said, and i agree with, is that this song ain't making nobody do nothing but shake ass. A woman or man who wanted to scam or boost was gonna either do it or not regardless of whether this song came out. And a woman or man who never thought about it won't go do it because this is a hit song for a few months.

There is also a level of hypocrisy in general because again there's been worse content and currently is worse currently being celebrated. If you gonna call out degenerate content call all of it out not just the songs you don't like.

 

[TheNightKing]

And the cycle continues

Im not seeing the hype it was worse back then ass niggas.

The point the lady is saying it to stop accepting the shit.

They'll stop making it

As long as the environment in which these people are growing up in exists you’ll always get this kind of music.

 

[Freeman]

Saw 12 pages and thought damn, song most be on some other shit.

So I went to watch the video on YouTube.

Yeah I’m not getting the outrage.

I don’t like the song or message, but this shit is light compared to other lyrical content that’s been out there since the 90’s.

Why does it need to be compared to other songs when nobody called it the worst song or worst message ever. You understand the song and its message is trash. Stop there.

Why are we talking about anything that happened 30 yrs ago or even 30 days ago?

 

[Freeman]

Most of us don't think or have the same logic as we did 30 yrs ago. And do yall think people didn't have similar opinions about different songs/music/content back then?

The lengths yall go every time lmao.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

My issue w shit like this is keep the same energy comprehensively

 

[Duwop]

Niggaz want to fight for a world they don't wanna live in.

Half your greatest memories wouldn't be possible if you didn't party with women who got down to this kinda shit when you were in your teens and early 20s... But now niggas older somebody gotta do something