OPINION Men seem to make life for women worse’: single US women share the woes of dating in 2025

I dont understand....its both, women and men make things way harder on each other than they should be when it comes to dating

The same thing applied to men in that article can be applied to women....low effort, not responding on dating apps, not planning dates does fall on men though


Men-

-Expecting to have sex immediately - Porn
-Not setting up dates or properly courting women - Social media
-No game or communication skills - Definitely social media
-Acting more like women than women - Upbringing and social media
-Expecting women to look like IG Models - IG = Social media so... Social media


Women

-Aren't dating men under 6 feet tall, thats a ton of potential options they're eliminating off the rip - Social Media
-The absurd amount of single mothers - Upbringing and social media
-Not doing basic stuff like cooking and cleaning for your man - Upbringing, possibly social media as well
-Having horrible judgment and not knowing how to properly vet men - Upbringing and social media

Both

-Manipulative
-Self serving
-Everything is transactional
-Unrealistic expectations for each other
-Getting relationship advice from social media and youtube


Dating is completely cooked in American Society

I highlighted the most likely causes of your lists except the "Both" list; alladat is fueled by social media.

It's like I've said before: Social media is destroying society.
 
I highlighted the most likely causes of your lists except the "Both" list; alladat is fueled by social media.

It's like I've said before: Social media is destroying society.

I agree


I understand there are some benefits to social media but overall and for the most part I think its one of the worst and most destructive things to ever happen to human society
 
If I could duplicate myself, and sell those duplicates to single women. I would be the richest person to ever walk the earth.


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See... This the shit I'm talking about. Mind you, I have FB in a whole different browser so there's no crosstalk between the shit discussed here and what I see on FB, but this was just in my Reels:



^^^ Even though this is a skit, there's people out there that will take this to heart and identify with it, men and women alike.

It's time for a social media reset.
 
See... This the shit I'm talking about. Mind you, I have FB in a whole different browser so there's no crosstalk between the shit discussed here and what I see on FB, but this was just in my Reels:



^^^ Even though this is a skit, there's people out there that will take this to heart and identify with it, men and women alike.

It's time for a social media reset.

I kind of agreed with the messed up bumper and headlight though lol
 
I dont understand....its both, women and men make things way harder on each other than they should be when it comes to dating

The same thing applied to men in that article can be applied to women....low effort, not responding on dating apps, not planning dates does fall on men though


Men-

-Expecting to have sex immediately
-Not setting up dates or properly courting women
-No game or communication skills
-Acting more like women than women
-Expecting women to look like IG Models


Women

-Aren't dating men under 6 feet tall, thats a ton of potential options they're eliminating off the rip
-The absurd amount of single mothers
-Not doing basic stuff like cooking and cleaning for your man
-Having horrible judgment and not knowing how to properly vet men

Both

-Manipulative
-Self serving
-Everything is transactional
-Unrealistic expectations for each other
-Getting relationship advice from social media and youtube


Dating is completely cooked in American Society

Women do the choosing

Hence the article
 
I kind of agreed with the messed up bumper and headlight though lol

Bruh, I used to pick up chicks in a raggedy '82 notch Mustang with the hood creased from an accident. They were just happy a bruh had a ride back then. For that matter, I used to get chicks when I had no car at all while living with my moms. Moms would complain on the sly talmbout "another one of your lil girlfriends is here to pick you up again".

Nah, the expectations that have been set by social media is grossly exaggerated when compared to the reality of most people. Dude in the video car is 10 years old and she complaining. Well shit... My ride is 24 years old with paint peeling on the hood and tailgate, I must really be fucked when I finally decide to start dating again.
 
And peep

The article is plain and simple; it’s women sharing their experiences and the first thing yall niggas do is offer advice like “see they using dating apps, that’s the problem” and other dumb shit like “men have the same issues”. This ain’t about that.

How hard is it to read something, digest it and let it be without having to defend your positioning in all of it?

Take your ego out of it. It’s no need to argue against what’s not there.

It’s just women expressing themselves. That’s it. Read the shit and be like “oh”. Don’t let the headline make you feel like you gotta take a stance. It’s ok.
 
Said this in that thread about Jennifer Lopez...most people will never admit their own flaws that lead to their failed relationships or problems that keep them single longer than they want to be. People going after people that don't actually like them, unrealistic expectations, and lack of ability for self reflection. All reasons why they find themselves in the problems they're in
 
Bruh, I used to pick up chicks in a raggedy '82 notch Mustang with the hood creased from an accident. They were just happy a bruh had a ride back then. For that matter, I used to get chicks when I had no car at all while living with my moms. Moms would complain on the sly talmbout "another one of your lil girlfriends is here to pick you up again".

Nah, the expectations that have been set by social media is grossly exaggerated when compared to the reality of most people. Dude in the video car is 10 years old and she complaining. Well shit... My ride is 24 years old with paint peeling on the hood and tailgate, I must really be fucked when I finally decide to start dating again.


Back then if you had a car you had a chance with a girl. They were just happy that you can take them somewhere and were open to fooling around as long as there was privacy. Now? Need a damn luxury vehicle just to have them give you a chance to talk to them. Sad
 
And your bullshit antenna didn't raise up for even a moment???

Early in the article they remarked that a number of women "... felt that social media narratives had made dating toxic and pitted men against women". We've discussed this quite a bit and I agree with it: Social media has fucked up Millennial and Gen Z's dating attitudes, but that goes both ways; it's not just the men as this article seems to want to frame it.

One chick said: “I wish I could have met my person before the stupid gender wars, social media and red pill rhetoric that has ruined people’s view of dating and marriage...” Which is the very sentiment echoed here. So how is it that men are making women's lives worse when both sexes are participating in this bullshit???

Also...

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^^^ This is one of the respondents, 48 year old Kelly Wallace. This pic of her is in the sidebar of the article. She says: "I’m a self-employed high earner. I’m working on a memoir, own rental property and have struggled with finding someone who is like me: creative and high earning...". Let's keep it real: The typical cat around her age (like you and I), making serious bank whether self employed or not, ain't checking for her; full stop. I understand about the whole "no smoking" thing, 'cause I'll never date a chick that smokes, even if its weed. Throwing in a non-drinker as well and she pretty much cut out the overwhelming majority of men out there so the dudes that could potentially fit her criteria that might even find her attractive enough to try to holler at her is extraordinarily tiny or non-existing. She's sabotaging her own dating prospects.

Even still... If you read down the article, nothing in it really speaks to the title. It's a bunch of women talking about their expectations in a man that they wish to have a relationship with, yet none of this says men are making their lives worse as the title suggests. Some are oblivious to how their own hang-ups are blocking their ability to find someone: The one chick, Raina, who's a doctor, states that she "feels" punished for her success and how it means her dating pool has diminished.

Well... duuuuuh...

This is where men and women differ significantly when it comes to their dating pool. Successful men will still date the cashier at Wendy's while successful women won't dare date some dude working at the plant. That's a problem they created on their own; that ain't got shit to do with us.

Another chick said: "I’m not looking for a partner because … it’s not that important to me...", "I let go of the notion that a long-term relationship is an accomplishment I must fulfil to be successful. I can afford my living expenses while saving for retirement. I have considered becoming a single mother via fostering or adoption. I’d rather commit to raising a child alone than go through the efforts of dating and finding a suitable partner."

^^^ What part of that speaks to the article's title??? Not one thing she says in this quote, or anything in this article for that matter, says that men are making women's lives worse. She literally said being with someone ain't even important and dances around the whole "I'm an independent woman that don't need no man" rhetoric that's been flying around the internet, even down to intentionally being a single mother.


Bruh, if you really read this shit for what it's saying, there's no way possible to agree with it.
I didn't mean to rustle your jimmies pleighboi

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This seems to be a topic that deeply concerns you. I appreciate such a passionate response. Like brother Eyerone, there are things I agree with in your response, there are things I disagree with.

I think the biggest point I took away from this particular article were the things cited as good qualities they are looking for weren't unrealistic and that as a man, trying to listen to women from a place of understanding instead of being adversarial or combative. If their comments don't apply, let it fly.

I hope I have adequately addressed all of your concerns. See you at the next discussion. I hope you have a splendid day today.

"Good talk"
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See... This the shit I'm talking about. Mind you, I have FB in a whole different browser so there's no crosstalk between the shit discussed here and what I see on FB, but this was just in my Reels:



^^^ Even though this is a skit, there's people out there that will take this to heart and identify with it, men and women alike.

It's time for a social media reset.

Brother

Is this shit ai? Why homie mouth moving like that

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I didn't mean to rustle your jimmies pleighboi

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This seems to be a topic that deeply concerns you. I appreciate such a passionate response. Like brother Eyerone, there are things I agree with in your response, there are things I disagree with.

I think the biggest point I took away from this particular article were the things cited as good qualities they are looking for weren't unrealistic and that as a man, trying to listen to women from a place of understanding instead of being adversarial or combative. If their comments don't apply, let it fly.

I hope I have adequately addressed all of your concerns. See you at the next discussion. I hope you have a splendid day today.

"Good talk"
🫱🏿‍🫲🏾

Looking for those "good qualities" means just that: Looking. That has absolutely nothing to do with the title of the article; how can a man make their life worse if there's no man actively in their life???

This is why I said you couldn't have possibly have read it.
 
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