Louisiana Is The Latest State To Remove Soda and Candy From Food Stamps

There's multiple issues being conflated. The costs of eating healthier/more nutritional food. Access to this food, and the social aspect of the "im better than you" that comes from people who look down on those using these programs. They all end up being mixed together in this topic
Too many are too offended to recognize that even if it appears to target certain demographics, its still addition by subtraction. A lot of people that eat unhealthy are ignorant to how bad the food they are eating is.

Eating healthy is too easy, we just complicate things because we're hooked on sugar and being consumers. Food stamps has been an integral part of poor children growing up unhealthy because the parent is not only financially poor, but ignorant to what is in the food they buy.

Like others, I grew up in this environment, I see the dependency we have developed for own destruction. We live like this is our culture, but we got trapped into this cycle.
 
I disagree that its expensive to eat healthy. I believed this at one point as well, and prices do fluctuate between cities. Though it is generally less expensive to cook your own meals than buying premade meals or fast food everyday. SNAP also allows fast food to be purchased, so some parents were just buying their kids burgers and fries every night.

Yeah - eating healthy is way cheaper than eating bullshit. I will concede that the biggest hurdle is time. I'm sure these republican fuckwads imagine SNAP recipients as unemployed leeches but the fact is most of them are working their ass off and finding the time to prepare three meals a day for a family is damn near unrealistic. When you keep in mind that these same people are trying to destroy any trace of school breakfast or lunch they really are just continuing their attack on the poor. But with all that said... using supplemental nutritional food money on mountain dew is not the hill for me.
 
Too many are too offended to recognize that even if it appears to target certain demographics, its still addition by subtraction. A lot of people that eat unhealthy are ignorant to how bad the food they are eating is.

Eating healthy is too easy, we just complicate things because we're hooked on sugar and being consumers. Food stamps has been an integral part of poor children growing up unhealthy because the parent is not only financially poor, but ignorant to what is in the food they buy.

Like others, I grew up in this environment, I see the dependency we have developed for own destruction. We live like this is our culture, but we got trapped into this cycle.

When you see the kind of shit me and @Based Dave 96 have seen on the first of the month, you know this to be 100% truth. As I said the last time, carts full of frozen pizzas, burgers, Banquet dinners, boxed powder mac and cheese, and assorted other bullshit along with mad cases of mountain dew, pepsi, and fanta underneath the carts with no fresh fruits or veggies anywhere to be seen with only canned shit here and there. There's ZERO nutritional literacy in a lot of them households gettin SNAP and it shows.
 
I disagree that its expensive to eat healthy. I believed this at one point as well, and prices do fluctuate between cities. Though it is generally less expensive to cook your own meals than buying premade meals or fast food everyday. SNAP also allows fast food to be purchased, so some parents were just buying their kids burgers and fries every night.

If you've got kids or families with specific food allergies then costs will definitely fluctuate. And it is generally more expensive to eat healthier than unhealthy. By like 1.50/day. Which doesn't seem like much til you gotta keep penny pinching for those meals
 
When you see the kind of shit me and @Based Dave 96 have seen on the first of the month, you know this to be 100% truth. As I said the last time, carts full of frozen pizzas, burgers, Banquet dinners, boxed powder mac and cheese, and assorted other bullshit along with mad cases of mountain dew, pepsi, and fanta underneath the carts with no fresh fruits or veggies anywhere to be seen with only canned shit here and there. There's ZERO nutritional literacy in a lot of them households gettin SNAP and it shows.

I don't know if @Based Dave 96 is the dude you want to ride with on this topic mane. He believes the poor should simply starve to death.
 
Yeah - eating healthy is way cheaper than eating bullshit. I will concede that the biggest hurdle is time. I'm sure these republican fuckwads imagine SNAP recipients as unemployed leeches but the fact is most of them are working their ass off and finding the time to prepare three meals a day for a family is damn near unrealistic. When you keep in mind that these same people are trying to destroy any trace of school breakfast or lunch they really are just continuing their attack on the poor. But with all that said... using supplemental nutritional food money on mountain dew is not the hill for me.

This article goes into the bold and also mentions one thing that I haven't seen which is...the shelf life of the food being purchased which also factors into what's being purchased

Rising inflation at the supermarket has changed the way Americans buy food, altering family menus and daily diets as shoppers stretch their dollars to feed their families. Higher food prices hurt those with lower incomes the most, limiting access to healthy food and impacting long-term health.

In particular, the price of healthy foods has surged. One study from the University of Warwick found that Americans pay 40% more for fruits and vegetables due to enormous fixed costs in supplying them to markets, resulting in less consumption of these healthier foods. A 2022 national survey found that the perceived high cost of healthy food was the biggest barrier to a healthier diet, with nearly half (46%) of respondents saying so.

The result is that Americans are compensating by eating too many sugary and ultra-processed foods — which tend to be cheaper and more durable — and not enough fruits, vegetables, and other nutrient-rich whole foods. Despite government programs encouraging and subsidizing healthy foods, the problem is only growing.

"There's evidence that inflation continues to shape food choices, particularly for low-income Americans who prioritize price over healthfulness," Constance Brown-Riggs, MSEd, RDN, CDCES, CDN, a registered nurse and nutritionist specializing in diabetes care, told Stacker.

According to the International Food Information Council's 2024 Food & Health Survey, at least 3 in 4 American consumers cited price as a key driver of food purchases; however, just over half (55%) of low-income households ranked healthfulness as a top factor. In contrast, the healthfulness of food purchases only became more important than the price for those households earning $100,000 or more.
 
Remember yall.

Heart disease is the number killer in this country and food plays a part

Take from that whatever you like.

perhaps the focus should switch from not allowing people to buy certain items with food stamps/snap to stopping these greedy ass corporations from poisoning us(whether we on SNAP or NOT) with their products
Instead of taking away something they should add an incentive for people to go for the healthier stuff. Either by a discount or making them worth more if used with healthier foods/drinks or something along those lines

You'd likely get less pushback that way too

People don't like being told no but offer something else and nudge them along is a better way with less anger
 
That Yellow 5 and Red 40 are destroying the body. Especially a 3- to 4-year-old child's body and mind.

Fruits are cheap when going to a farmers' market. Kids do not need to be consuming sugar unless it's attached to fiber, fruits.

Children should not be drinking cold drinks, the amount of white sugar in a coke, the "added" sugar in candy bars. Hell adults shouldn't be drinking.

Adults consume 150 pounds of sugar a year, from pasta, bread, cold drinks, alcohol, and other substances. Not good for the body and soul.

Sugar ages you.

Sugar is almost as bad as coke, if not bad,

Sugar changes a person's mood, attitude changes, brings on depression (why so many kids/teens are in a funk mood, depression state), your thinking process is messed up, brain fog, messes with the kidneys, causes visceral fat, dementia, diabetes, shifts the energy of a child, cause the gums and teeth to decay. Your Liver gets overprocessed, causing tapeworms other parasites that feeds off the sugar and stays inside of the body, organ/tissue area, and creates Candida, (look and see if your tongue is white or has a white coating on it when you wake up in the mornings, that's Candida)

Nothing is good about white sugar, man-made sugar.

If we are really trying to help society, then I am all for this action being taken, hell I don't think sugar, (the white kind) needs to be sold period. Adults shouldn't be consuming that much.
 
If you've got kids or families with specific food allergies then costs will definitely fluctuate. And it is generally more expensive to eat healthier than unhealthy. By like 1.50/day. Which doesn't seem like much til you gotta keep penny pinching for those meals

I disagree,

Families with large family can cook beans, a pot of red or white beans used to feed the whole neighborhood.

Ground turkey meat (which I don't sub to a whole lot of red meat)

You can create healthy meals,

If you know how the body works and what foods the body is supposed to intake, you don't need to buy a whole lot of food. Train your body and family how to eat to live, not live to eat.

Buy 1 or 2 ingredient items from your local farmer market or local stores.

The produce aisle and fresh meat area are the only areas where a human should do their shopping, mainly in the produce section 80 - 90% should come from there.


All those other aisles are chemicals, not even real food.


If you can't pronounce the ingredients on the back of the label, you are not supposed to eat it in my opinion. It doesn't take 34 ingredients to make a candy bar or ice cream.

Folks have this mindset of it being more expensive to eat healthy/clean, but when you really shop, lay out your meal plan for your family, you may spend a little more


Hell spend a little more on a better selection of food, or spend even more visiting your primary doctor?

Pay The Farmer or Big Pharmer
 
Instead of taking away something they should add an incentive for people to go for the healthier stuff. Either by a discount or making them worth more if used with healthier foods/drinks or something along those lines

You'd likely get less pushback that way too

People don't like being told no but offer something else and nudge them along is a better way with less anger

Should eliminate these food desert zones and add more local farmers markets. That's what I'll push for, and most cities have done this, you see more local farmers markets being added to areas where black folks reside or they are in driving distance.

Education centers/seminars should be taught in school starting from kindergarten, elementary, middle school and on so to high school.

Nutrition should be taught in churches, the bible tells us what to eat and when to eat, the universe grows our food year round, pretty much telling us what to eat

I know I'm going all around the board, but starting here, will give folks an idea on how important food is to our bodies and everyday living/function

I don't have any data but I would be willing to guess that bad ass kids, look at their diets.


I would jump off the porch and state that a disruptive kid, teen, is linked to a poor/heavy sugary diet. I would contribute their diet into their behavior as a factor
Piss poor grades/testing, again, what their diet looking like

More adults are having health issues from heart issue, ED, having kids/birth, attitudes/ depression etc , again, I'll look at their diet
 
Eating healthy isn't more expensive than consuming junk food, people just are lazy and don't cook anymore. Too many are also obese and addicted to the dopamine rush of junk food, no matter how many ways they try to spin it.

What gets me is the same people who call out our healthcare system, are the same people who are ok with eating junk food all the time. Pay for that shit on your own dime, not taxpayers.
 
Should eliminate these food desert zones and add more local farmers markets. That's what I'll push for, and most cities have done this, you see more local farmers markets being added to areas where black folks reside or they are in driving distance.

Education centers/seminars should be taught in school starting from kindergarten, elementary, middle school and on so to high school.

Nutrition should be taught in churches, the bible tells us what to eat and when to eat, the universe grows our food year round, pretty much telling us what to eat

I know I'm going all around the board, but starting here, will give folks an idea on how important food is to our bodies and everyday living/function

I don't have any data but I would be willing to guess that bad ass kids, look at their diets.


I would jump off the porch and state that a disruptive kid, teen, is linked to a poor/heavy sugary diet. I would contribute their diet into their behavior as a factor
Piss poor grades/testing, again, what their diet looking like

More adults are having health issues from heart issue, ED, having kids/birth, attitudes/ depression etc , again, I'll look at their diet

The education part is needed but this is the same country that went off the rails over Michelle Obama attempting to introduce more healthy food options in schools. People in this country take trying to educate them on something, especially involving their kids, as a personal afront. So there's a huge cultural shift that would need to happen in order for Americans as a whole to not only embrace but demand healthier options and more information about what is being eaten.
 
Eating healthy isn't more expensive than consuming junk food, people just are lazy and don't cook anymore. Too many are also obese and addicted to the dopamine rush of junk food, no matter how many ways they try to spin it.

What gets me is the same people who call out our healthcare system, are the same people who are ok with eating junk food all the time. Pay for that shit on your own dime, not taxpayers.

It's literally proven by studies that it is more expensive
 
If you can't pronounce the ingredients on the back of the label, you are not supposed to eat it in my opinion. It doesn't take 34 ingredients to make a candy bar or ice cream.

I started buying Daisy sour cream for this reason. Theirs has like 3-4 ingredients in it, every other brand has a long ass list of shit in it. It don't take guar gum and other bullshit to make some damned sour cream. Since I've been reading ingredients I've been switching up a lot of what I buy for us.
 
Eating healthy can be more expensive than eating a bunch of junk. While yall might have access to stores that sell healthy foods for cheap there are such things as food deserts in the states

What is eating healthy to you? I also believe a lot of people attribute healthy eating to some type of elaborate eating or something

Eating a pot of red beans with turkey sausage (again I usually don't eat meat) with no rice is healthy

Black eyed peas,
Cooked green cabbage
Zucchini
Red, yellow, green peppers with mushrooms etc.

What food items do you consider healthy and what's not healthy?

Also, you can order food from Wal Mart online, again produce area should be 80 - 90% of what you're supposed to be eating,

Amazon, Whole Foods deliver
 
The education part is needed but this is the same country that went off the rails over Michelle Obama attempting to introduce more healthy food options in schools. People in this country take trying to educate them on something, especially involving their kids, as a personal afront. So there's a huge cultural shift that would need to happen in order for Americans as a whole to not only embrace but demand healthier options and more information about what is being eaten.

I think it was more "white" folks going off on her because she was black, I'm not even speaking about them.

When I was stating education, I'm speaking within a frame of educating our own, black churches/pastors, talking to black nutritionist and some white ones

More about informing our own, there needs to be a thread on here where we can share healthy ideas, foods that are good and not good etc

What foods will help with what. We have the space here. I'm not speaking for every American per say, I am concerned about our kind 1st, they'll catch on
 
I started buying Daisy sour cream for this reason. Theirs has like 3-4 ingredients in it, every other brand has a long ass list of shit in it. It don't take guar gum and other bullshit to make some damned sour cream. Since I've been reading ingredients I've been switching up a lot of what I buy for us.

That's a game changer, the 1st ingredient that you read 1st or is 1st on the label tend to have the most in the product/item than the others listed.

If I do decide to go down those aisles outside of the produce area and fresh meat market, I'm quick to turn over the box/label and read those labels.

Over 5, I won't get and if it's an ingredient, I can't pronounce or sound like the shit you'll use in your 5th grade chemistry lab class, I won't get it.

It has become a habit now.

1 to 4 ingredients other than that, I'll pass on it. Don't need it. Body won't process it and it'll mess up something inside that makes me out of wack on the outside.

I looked at one of those cakes that they sit out in the bakery (wasn't going to get it) just wanted to see what it took to make this small slice of cake

Kid you not 56 ingredients to make a cake that you will take 4 to 7 bites to finish. Smh. Half of those ingredients, I couldn't pronounce
 
What is eating healthy to you? I also believe a lot of people attribute healthy eating to some type of elaborate eating or something

Eating a pot of red beans with turkey sausage (again I usually don't eat meat) with no rice is healthy

Black eyed peas,
Cooked green cabbage
Zucchini
Red, yellow, green peppers with mushrooms etc.

What food items do you consider healthy and what's not healthy?

Also, you can order food from Wal Mart online, again produce area should be 80 - 90% of what you're supposed to be eating,

Amazon, Whole Foods deliver

Throw some jasmine or basmati rice in with that red beans and rice and it's still healthy.
 
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