OPINION Is Marvel's Black Panther movie really a "special moment" for Black America??

AP21 said:
you keep saying define them

and the fact that you've said it numerous times over the span of 70+ pages is something i dont get but,

WHO is letting this movie define them?

what do you mean by define? lets start there
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You can't be this dense.

Literally every person in praise of this movie is talking about how much pride and how much they connected with the film. Like look at literally any positive review and folk are saying they feel we're all from Wakanda
 
King Du said:
You can't be this dense.

Literally every person in praise of this movie is talking about how much pride and how much they connected with the film. Like look at literally any positive review and folk are saying they feel we're all from Wakanda
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fam, thats not something that defines someone

you can connect with a film or any form of media on various levels and not be defined by that

but we are back to the original point that you feel some way people are happy that as black people, we arent being depicted on screen as slaves or subservient people.
 
King Du said:
I'll give DL some credit. Those are strong points, but things effect different people in different ways.

I was a child watching boyz n the hood definitely had an impact, but it was not for the worse. I related more with young tre, I was a kid. So I can't agree that movie made my community worse .In fact I haven't seen the effects of any movie making my community worse.

Maybe I don't see the parallels he does, but he's also much older than me, and likely lived in a different community.

However I do not agree any of those movies made our communities worse.

I though the message in boyz in the hood was not to follow your friends when they doing bad things.... That's what my uncle and Mom told me.

I thought nino brown was the clear bad guy and crack was horrible.

I never even liked Scarface and thought it was horrible.

So my personal opinion does not line up with dl's opinion.

I don't see how those movies made anyone or any communities worse off.

I feel like as always folk looking for external things to Blame for internal issues.... If I was talking to him id disagree
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so b/c it didnt happen to Du, then you dont see how these things have impacted people?

c'mon man, the world is bigger than Baltimore

i dont wanna assume anything b/c you said you not really into tv like that or whatever, but there was a time when MTV Cribs was on when EVERY rapper had a poster of Scarface on the wall...yes, the movie was horrible, but for some reason, people wanted to feel connected to him

DL's point was we ALL at some point are influenced by different forms of media from fashion to slang. You not exempted from that no matter how hard you trying to convince people you are.
 
King Du said:
I'll give DL some credit. Those are strong points, but things effect different people in different ways.

I was a child watching boyz n the hood definitely had an impact, but it was not for the worse. I related more with young tre, I was a kid. So I can't agree that movie made my community worse .In fact I haven't seen the effects of any movie making my community worse.

Maybe I don't see the parallels he does, but he's also much older than me, and likely lived in a different community.

However I do not agree any of those movies made our communities worse.

I though the message in boyz in the hood was not to follow your friends when they doing bad things.... That's what my uncle and Mom told me.

I thought nino brown was the clear bad guy and crack was horrible.

I never even liked Scarface and thought it was horrible.

So my personal opinion does not line up with dl's opinion.

I don't see how those movies made anyone or any communities worse off.

I feel like as always folk looking for external things to Blame for internal issues.... If I was talking to him id disagree
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The same points that have been made over and over in this thread... word? lol
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You can find thousands of post where black men are talking about jumpoff and side pieces... hating their "baby mamas" but would that be representative of the whole lot as far as family values accountability and responsibility goes......

:ooo:
 
Playmaker88 said:
You can find thousands of post where black men are talking about jumpoff and side pieces... hating their "baby mamas" but would that be representative of the whole lot as far as family values accountability and responsibility goes......

:ooo:
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I love my baby mother, I'll never let her go
 
AP21 said:
so b/c it didnt happen to Du, then you dont see how these things have impacted people?

c'mon man, the world is bigger than Baltimore

i dont wanna assume anything b/c you said you not really into tv like that or whatever, but there was a time when MTV Cribs was on when EVERY rapper had a poster of Scarface on the wall...yes, the movie was horrible, but for some reason, people wanted to feel connected to him

DL's point was we ALL at some point are influenced by different forms of media from fashion to slang. You not exempted from that no matter how hard you trying to convince people you are.
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I'm saying he's over empathizing the influence of these things..

It's no different than when people blame rappers for the drug culture of the youth.

The accountability should not be placed on art imitating life
 
Scarface did impact communities, unfortunately
A fuckin movie smh

Good or bad media can and does shape people's mental on some issues

Jeezy had me water whippin
It was a low point in my life
 
Man I was disgusted first time I saw Scarface.

Niggaz let that influence them??
 
King Du said:
I'm saying he's over empathizing the influence of these things..

It's no different than when people blame rappers for the drug culture of the youth.

The accountability should not be placed on art imitating life
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But you..
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At some point y'all Niggaz need to ask y'all selves why y'all keep going back n forth with me if I'm so wrong and misguided.

This ain't the first hill I died on...I never will forget how y'all tried to say a black woman shouldn't play Nina Simone cuz she was too pretty
 
King Du said:
At some point y'all Niggaz need to ask y'all selves why y'all keep going back n forth with me if I'm so wrong and misguided.

This ain't the first hill I died on...I never will forget how y'all tried to say a black woman shouldn't play Nina Simone cuz she was too pretty
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nah fam ....u was saying lets give Zoe Saldana a chance ....everyone else was saying she was an awful cast
 
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