OPINION Is Marvel's Black Panther movie really a "special moment" for Black America??

so people in here using facebook as gauge of people's knowledge about this film?
 
Chi-Town B said:
I don't know who this character is so I'm not going to see it
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Olorun22 said:
No nigga. You should ask yourself why you always in Pac threads talking shit. That isn't healthy bro get some help. You still mad the he went a biggie let it go funk flex jr
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Nah, not it all nigga. Fuck out your feelings b. Look in the mirror family, you're caping for a rapper
 
HellCzar said:
You tripping. We not about to deny 400 years of culture language and customs because some honkeys and their views say we aint like them. Thats disrespectful. Also saying we are American is not denying African identity. If you go to.another country talking like we do acting like we do everybody will see an American.
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With this logic your traditions started when we were brought here. Instead of the ones that started over 2000 years ago.
 
Cain said:
Nah, not it all nigga. Fuck out your feelings b. Look in the mirror family, you're caping for a rapper
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You randomly brung up Pac in a thread that didn't have anything to do with the rapper lol. You're obsessed and not capping just point out what I've seen from you. Anyway, back to the original topic
 
HellCzar said:
Precious and For Colored Girls were both book written by black women for black women. I know we dont like to believe black men dont treat black women bad and we get mad when they tell their stories of bad treatment from black men. But thats weak. Im going off on a tangent but only reason niggas got upset about those movies is because we didnt want to discuss it
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Ain't nothing wrong with shit like that. It just seems like the only story that black women have to tell be it through movies or music is about how bad black men are. Black men have bad experiences by black women too, but we can talk about other parts of life than experiences with fucked up females.
 
yall can have this convo might as well take it to another thread i aint interested.. lets keep this one on topic
 
a.mann said:
Most black people don't "celebrate" those shits.....we use them
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everything is cup for review with black folk......we don't know who we are or who we wanna be going forward..

every holiday, custom, religion, ,everything is brought to the table and it's relevancy is determines...

like i said, we have an identity crisis....

niggaz actually gave a fuck about movies and the messages they portrayed when they came out.....like they really felt this was a story that needed to be told...

then like typical niggaz they use those same images and shit on them now and say they're tired of our people being portrayed like that....

like niggaz will sit here and argue over which movie is MORE CLASSIC between new jack city, boyz in the hood, or menace to society......

then turn right the fuck around and say they're tired of seeing it on the tv screen...



niggaz.....fucking idntity crisis....

we all repping wakanda from here on out so it's all good......

imma start talking with a fake wakandian accent... imma see who calls me out first....
 
King Du said:
everything is cup for review with black folk......we don't know who we are or who we wanna be going forward..

every holiday, custom, religion, ,everything is brought to the table and it's relevancy is determines...

like i said, we have an identity crisis....

niggaz actually gave a fuck about movies and the messages they portrayed when they came out.....like they really felt this was a story that needed to be told...

then like typical niggaz they use those same images and shit on them now and say they're tired of our people being portrayed like that....

like niggaz will sit here and argue over which movie is MORE CLASSIC between new jack city, boyz in the hood, or menace to society......

then turn right the fuck around and say they're tired of seeing it on the tv screen...



niggaz.....fucking idntity crisis....

we all repping wakanda from here on out so it's all good......

imma start talking with a fake wakandian accent... imma see who calls me out first....
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thats not happening at all

all people are saying is that there are more images of black people than those ones depicted in those movies

so you have an issue with Disney's Frog Princess b/c it portrays a black princess?

Something positive for lil black girls to feel like they can look up to?
 
AP21 said:
thats not happening at all

all people are saying is that there are more images of black people than those ones depicted in those movies

so you have an issue with Disney's Frog Princess b/c it portrays a black princess?

Something positive for lil black girls to feel like they can look up to?
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i had no problem with that movie, this movie, any moive, or the images it portrays... my issues is peoples reactions to them... and has always been that... stop trying to change my argument.....
 
King Du said:
i had no problem with that movie, this movie, any moive, or the images it portrays... my issues is peoples reactions to them... and has always been that... stop trying to change my argument.....
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so how should people react then according to Du?

lets start there
 
I'm not sure what's even being argued here.

This is a big budget, high profile movie that's mostly black in every way. In the movie, an African city is being portrayed as the most advanced nation in the world and the citizens of that country are among the most gifted. BP's sister is supposedly smarter than Tony Stark. Basically, this move is the antithesis to every negative trope, stereotype, and image that Hollywood has crafted relating to black people, and people are questioning it's relevance. I ain't saying you should think the movie is the end all or be all, but you'd have to be blind or stupid not to understand why some think it's important.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
I'm not sure what's even being argued here.

This is a big budget, high profile movie that's mostly black in every way. In the movie, an African city is being portrayed as the most advanced nation in the world and the citizens of that country are among the most gifted. BP's sister is supposedly smarter than Tony Stark. Basically, this move is the antithesis to every negative trope, stereotype, and image that Hollywood has crafted relating to black people, and people are questioning it's relevance. I ain't saying you should think the movie is the end all or be all, but you'd have to be blind or stupid not to understand why some think it's important.
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agree 1000% fam, but...

according to Du, we should be reacting like this

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AP21 said:
so how should people react then according to Du?

lets start there
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i don't like this condescending tone... bcuz my argument from the very jump was that we're overreacting to the images.....we're giving them too much significance, and we're letting them overshadow real accomplishments for fictional ones....and you rally standing there with your hands on your hips like


so how should people react..


lets me know you never were listening to any argument i made, yuo just assumed some shit and pressed imaginary points...

how should people react?

not over react.


that simple. been saying it from the jump...


BP seems like a good highly anticipated comic book movie....

but it's a fuckign comic bok movie.....nothing more....

boyz n the hood, new jack city, menace to society... they were good fuckign movies.... not the only images of blacks in today's media... we fucking applauded those movies for their grit... now we shitting on their images.... that's doing too much......placing too much significance in a movie....

the princess and the frog was a cool little movie.... not disney's best work, but not bad... it had a black princess....and she was cute and cool, and she owned her own diner... it was a cute movie......but no one is placing it on a pedestal as the crowning achievement of black people....


that's been my entire point from the jump.....niggaz making to big of a deal about a movie......so how you gonna ask me......after all that... how should people react?
 
Whispering Eye said:
Black panther is important to black America the same way having a black president was important to black America... Was it significantly beneficial to us? Meh... Not really... But the imagery is important for our youth to see so that when we tell them they can be anything in this world, they believe it. So there's some value.
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Folks this thinking is one of many problems with black people.
 
I didnt finish Fires of Jubilee (may have to just start over from the beginning), but thats where Nate Parker said he based most of "BOAN" off of.

Assuming the part about the black boy ratting them out, thats the issue with blacks who have conditioned to protect their "massas". I thought the movie was pretty damn good all things considered
 
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