OPINION Is Marvel's Black Panther movie really a "special moment" for Black America??

5th Letter said:
So giving a young black person fresh out of school a audio job working at his studio=peddling drugs? That’s a false equivalency and how is TP’s portrayal of black men detrimental to the perception of black men? You still haven’t answered that question.
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They won't cuz then they'd have to shit on their favorite hood classic.

Can't say TP movies are detrimental to the black community and particularly black men and praise movies like New Jack City, Boyz N Tha Hood or Menace 2 Society at the same time.
 
AP21 said:
Menace II Society did way more harm to the depiction of black men than any TP film, but its heralded as a "hood" classic.

Directed and written by 2 black biological brothers, but financed and distributed by who? Oh, a white company you say?
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lol damn I missed your shit again.
 
AP21 said:
nah b/c the same people that were hype af about Luke Cage being brought to the TV are the same ones hype af about BP. They binged Cage in a weekend like most people and had all kinds of discussion on social media. Think about that thread on the IC, and thats just a drop in the bucket of the people that supported.

And i honestly dont see why releasing this during BHM triggers you so much. I thought it was dope. There is nothing being taken away from "us" by doing this. The movie could've been released in January or March and the anticipation would still be there. I'm honestly confused about this particular thing that is triggering you.

Like others have said, if you need a month to celebrate the accomplishments of black folks, then shame on you. I dont wait until February to read about Nat Turner, or Huey P. Newton. Thats a personal journey of mine to always educate myself 365.
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This is funny

First, no....

The BP hype train shits all over the Luke cage one.... It's just not the same... Trust me.. This is my realm, I don't just casual, I'm always here.... More people are in love with bp and simply because it offers a mystical black fantasy....
Luke cage was being hyped.... But not like this.... It wasn't even remotely close

Also y'all keep trying to force points I never said.....

I never said bhm is the only time I learn about black history, and I have applauded every single person who said they celebrate black history every day.... Also good...

What I said is that black history month is the only month where the entire world takes a break to celebrate the accomplishments of black people in this country..... And this movie triggered me cuz I'm very sure that focus will not be as heavy this year because a comic book character will receive a lion's share of black folk attention this year.
It's a clear and deliberate distraction.
And it's crazy effective.


Again, I'm looking forward to it too, but this is over kill, and exploits our lost sense of identity.

See how I keep bringing my arguments back to the original point??
 
Bottom line, black panther is not a special moment in black history.

It's a trendy moment that will in my opinion take away from bhm.
 
King Du said:
This is funny

First, no....

The BP hype train shits all over the Luke cage one.... It's just not the same... Trust me.. This is my realm, I don't just casual, I'm always here.... More people are in love with bp and simply because it offers a mystical black fantasy....
Luke cage was being hyped.... But not like this.... It wasn't even remotely close

Also y'all keep trying to force points I never said.....

I never said bhm is the only time I learn about black history, and I have applauded every single person who said they celebrate black history every day.... Also good...

What I said is that black history month is the only month where the entire world takes a break to celebrate the accomplishments of black people in this country..... And this movie triggered me cuz I'm very sure that focus will not be as heavy this year because a comic book character will receive a lion's share of black folk attention this year.
It's a clear and deliberate distraction.
And it's crazy effective.


Again, I'm looking forward to it too, but this is over kill, and exploits our lost sense of identity.

See how I keep bringing my arguments back to the original point??
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this aint true and you know it

the world nor the country stops b/c its BHM

sure, you get a McDonald's commercial or some shit, and Nike releasing some shoes themed for this month, but they not taking moments of silence to remember the fallen at jobs and shit

if you expecting anybody to teach your or your children about BHM or waiting until that one month for them to do so, then thats a you problem

the only place this is a distraction is in your head...like you cant "celebrate" the accomplishments of your ancestors along with seeing this movie

this aint no "either or" situation fam
 
King Du said:
Bottom line, black panther is not a special moment in black history.

It's a trendy moment that will in my opinion take away from bhm.
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aight

did Deadpool take away from BHM when it was released in Feb last year?

yes or no
 
its just a movie fam. its not gonna cause one less innocent black guy to get shot by the cops.

it might get us a few more black superhero movies and TV shows. But thats about it. Go and enjoy it. But dont forget theres an election this year.

the president is still a nazi sympathizer. No black excellence flick, no matter how good it is, gonna change that. Especially one from Disney of all places.
 
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Revolver Ocelot said:
They won't cuz then they'd have to shit on their favorite hood classic.

Can't say TP movies are detrimental to the black community and particularly black men and praise movies like New Jack City, Boyz N Tha Hood or Menace 2 Society at the same time.
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Menace, Boyz, and all that had a place. As I get older I see them for what they were and don't watch 'em any more and haven't in quite a while but theres a difference between then and now: Back then that's all we could get greenlit because that's all the honkies holding the money would give us funding for. 30 years later what's TP's excuse?

What Menace and the like did was distort the perception of Black youth to the country at large. TP's movies distort the perception of Black males to Black people, which destroys us from within making it far more dangerous than 100 Menace II Society flicks could ever be.
 
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Goldie said:
"for black history month nike's gonna make limited edition dashiki air force 1's"


Niggas:
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This nigga a asshole but..............niggas would buy them tho
 
Black panther is important to black America the same way having a black president was important to black America... Was it significantly beneficial to us? Meh... Not really... But the imagery is important for our youth to see so that when we tell them they can be anything in this world, they believe it. So there's some value.

Yes, I'm going to see the movie because I support black actors, I'm a fan of Marvel, and it looks entertaining af. But I already know that this is just for entertainment purposes only and anyone taking their kids to see it should have that conversation with their kids prior to, I'm. But I can say the same for any movie.

And I must be the only black person that wasn't feeling Birth of a Nation... To me, the movie was more like a precautionary tale to remind niggas that we'll never be able to truly rise up or win the fight for the betterment of our people because we don't possess the absolute savagery or weaponry to do so. Yeah, Nat killed some white people up... How many blacks were killed in retaliation though? What were the ramifications?

If I would've made the movie, it would've been focused on the hunting and killing of slave owners... Shit would've been like a horror movie for wypipo... But we can't incite that type of fear in movies because of the real life repercussions...

But I digress... I appreciate what black panther is about. I love Africans and I celebrate their successes as my own under the black pride awning. But I also agree with @King Du that being black in America is a uniquely different experience.
 
All I'm saying is the first video I see of a little kid doing a black history report of t'challa of wakanda instead of a real fucking person... I'm posting it in here like

:scust1:
 
Whispering Eye said:
Black panther is important to black America the same way having a black president was important to black America... Was it significantly beneficial to us? Meh... Not really... But the imagery is important for our youth to see so that when we tell them they can be anything in this world, they believe it. So there's some value.

Yes, I'm going to see the movie because I support black actors, I'm a fan of Marvel, and it looks entertaining af. But I already know that this is just for entertainment purposes only and anyone taking their kids to see it should have that conversation with their kids prior to, I'm. But I can say the same for any movie.

And I must be the only black person that wasn't feeling Birth of a Nation... To me, the movie was more like a precautionary tale to remind niggas that we'll never be able to truly rise up or win the fight for the betterment of our people because we don't possess the absolute savagery or weaponry to do so. Yeah, Nat killed some white people up... How many blacks were killed in retaliation though? What were the ramifications?

If I would've made the movie, it would've been focused on the hunting and killing of slave owners... Shit would've been like a horror movie for wypipo... But we can't incite that type of fear in movies because of the real life repercussions...

But I digress... I appreciate what black panther is about. I love Africans and I celebrate their successes as my own under the black pride awning. But I also agree with @King Du that being black in America is a uniquely different experience.
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O remember they tried to sabotage birth of a nation by not selling tickets to it.

There were videos of hidden cameras with people going to see it and the movie theater saying it was sold out and sold them tickets to la la land or some shit.

The screening room where birth of nation was supposed to be shown was empty smh.

Also they brought up that the director had been charged for rape a decade and half ago and made him apologize, despite the victim admitting long time ago that she lied. smh
 
In 2nd grade we had an assignment where we could do a review about any character.

me and my friends choose marvel characters

I choose black panther. I was only a kid when I found out about him and was proud that there was a black superhero that had african orgin.

fast foward 2 decades and they're making a movie about him with a black director.

I'll definitely support this one in theaters. They can't sabotage this one like they do the other black movies
 
AP21 said:
convo from another thread, but i personally think that what's happening with this film is no small feat.

Goldie thinks all Marvel is doing is exploiting black culture. I dont see how this is exploiting where you have black director, majority black cast, black writers, etc...

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It is. At what point in history has Disney ever gave a fuck about black people? All you gotta do is research. Disney historically has shitted on black culture. Don't be fooled by the illusion of inclusion. And yes I'm well aware of a clip of the movie being in my signature. It will definitely be a dope comic movie but a big moment for black ppl? Nah
 
Was in a couple European countries around the time straight outta Compton came out. They refused to show it in theaters, execpt for in the UK (which is obvious)

This boycotting of black movies is bigger than y'all think. They don't even show the black man "finn" on covers of star wars in italy or china.

Yes they racist af, but they mainly do it for business purposes. They dont think it will sell if they show a black person.

which is also why dude that made gods of egypt put an all white cast. He said his audience likes seeing white people.

If black panther does good, it will change the dynamic of how hollywood see black people in films as when straight outta compton did good.
 
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