OPINION Is Marvel's Black Panther movie really a "special moment" for Black America??

caddo man said:
@King Du I hate to say it brother but black america will never think the same or have the same view on anything. Damn sure will never identify as the same. Even people with history in America sometimes choose to not identify with it. Look at the southern white people for example. Most can trace their ancestry to Europe but if you ask most of them. Fuck Europe! I am an American.

Then you have alot of black Americans that will get mad at you for calling them Black. Then some that get mad when you call them African american. "I aint from Africa!"

We have never had the same identity, It has always been a chosen few that has fought the battle while the rest watched. It will always be that way. The only identity crisis is the identity of self.
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i can agree to many of those points, but that will never stop me from being who i am, and being confident in my identity....

like i don't mind learning about any other culture, but i hate folk trying to tell me what my culture is. like all the shit that happen to us didn't do anything to our people...

you can't pretend that shit didn't happen, and didn't have an impact.. you can't lessen or cheapen that impact, or lessen or cheapen the accomplishments of it's people...

that's fucked up to try to do so....

i hate when people try to diminish that.. but it's whatever... you can't make the world feel how you feel.... but that shit is fuckig wack
 
BNE said:
lol Du, I so often agree with you or think your posts are still great even when I don't

but you ignorant af on this. it's aight tho, because no one is perfect and you are still top notch
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sometimes ignorance is bliss...

allow me to think i'm my own person shaped by the experience and the blood spilt by my people in this country.
 
AP21 said:
what does this have to do with Black Panther tho?

is not based on a true story or anything like that. Its about bringing a fictional black comic character to the big screen. That same fictional black character is from the RICHEST nation in that comic universe. Think about that for a sec. You know how many characters are in the Marvel universe? And the country that has the most money, the most technologically advanced, is the one where blacks live.
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lot more attractive story than any of the stories we normally tell our people on february... i tell u that much
 
AP21 said:
what does this have to do with Black Panther tho?

is not based on a true story or anything like that. Its about bringing a fictional black comic character to the big screen. That same fictional black character is from the RICHEST nation in that comic universe. Think about that for a sec. You know how many characters are in the Marvel universe? And the country that has the most money, the most technologically advanced, is the one where blacks live.
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I’m well aware of Black Panther i used to collect comic books when I was a kid. My point is that anything that’s truly black owned/black made tend to get sabotaged by the media while the black films made by whites don’t get sabotaged that much. And I’m sure there will be some type of white savior at the end of Black Panther.
 
You should not be offended because you know it is coming from someone who is Rastafari and studied Garvey. So naturally my mindset will always have an Africa focus. But Chinese, Japanese, Italians and plenty of other people don’t disassociate themselves from there ancestors as quickly as some black people do. Why is it somehow better to be a part of a country that enslaved your ancestors than a country that your ancestors came from. I am not a let’s all go back to Africa physically because that is not realistic but I am a let’s look to Africa mentally to understand that we were not all slaves the way this country has taught us. We will never have our own in America so why not focus on something that was/ is ours. Maybe you don’t need it but self esteem changes when you realize what you truely are instead of what they are trying to feed you. Now I know it is only a movie but for some it is the first time they will will see a fictional super hero that looks like them. You can’t tell me that is not good for the black youth.
 
King Du said:
lol, i'm not wasting my time googling and posting pictures of every example of people littering the internet with their over reaction to this movie....

btu yea feel free to investigate my claims.. it shouldn't take u long
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Wait... so you're willing to take the time and post conjecture about people's supposed behavior, but not willing to show us that you're right?

If people will be as ridiculous as you've prophesied, it shouldn't be hard to prove.
 
Goldie said:
We're essentially saying the same thing, I'm not saying Black Panther is bad for blacks, I'm just saying it's not a special moment where we all need to group together and go out to support, cuz all that money is going straight to a white nigga who prolly rapes.
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We are but we aint.. i also said everything is not about monetary gain. there is a bigger picture than money.. and that money will come.

Yet you are willing to go out and support tidal just cuz its headed by jigga

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caddo man said:
When you go to any other country even Africa. You are American! You can claim any other country you want. But when the shit hit the fan. They send your ass to the American Embassy. So you can be anybody you want to be here. That is your right as an .........................................American!
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And you hope when you get to the embassy that they view you as an American.
 
caddo man said:
When you go to any other country even Africa. You are American! You can claim any other country you want. But when the shit hit the fan. They send your ass to the American Embassy. So you can be anybody you want to be here. That is your right as an .........................................American!
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exactly....
like right now.. they judging

"them damn black americans... cultural narcissist they are"

yess...yess we are... we have an identity... u recognize it in your treatment of us, but when we try to identify with it, we're ridiculed for it.....


we are not all the same... different struggles produce different people....

yall struggle made yall, our struggle made us....


this ain't like trading cards, we can't share shit we ain't go thru
 
King Du said:
yea, many people can.

however many impressionable people tend to only be exposed to what's trending... and the problem with those people is that they're often more louder than most... so ultimately the message that's gonna be more widely spread this february amongst the black community.....will be.....
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There are impressionable people of all ages..word to cardi b and nigga biggin up that hoe ..."Doing it for the cultcha" i mean look around and look at what niggas ingest,disseminate and celebrate.. on a daily basis
 
King Du said:
like this whole post is shitting on black people...

i can 100% guarantee you i would be offended by this if it was said to me in person

this is a disgusting point of view, and 100% confirms my suspicions on how i feel the rest of the world views black people...

thank you again for the confirmation
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Was it as insulting and disgusting as to suggest that black people will embrace a fictional country in a comic book movie over the place they were literally born and raised?
 
Playmaker88 said:
We are but we aint.. i also said everything is not about monetary gain. there is a bigger picture than money.. and that money will come.

Yet you are willing to go out and support tidal just cuz its headed by jigga

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Don't do that, cuz ignorant mfs will look at that and think it's ether (no pun). That pic was taken right after he acquired the company from russians/norwegians. That was their staff. Since then there's been a LOT of staff changes.
 
Goldie said:
Since 2010, there' been at least 100 comic book movies, after a 100 comic book movies these white mfs finally give yall a movie and it's a celebration :lolfoh:
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Yes. It is. Because the imagery is important. Because most kids and some of you adults need black super heroes. Because if one person sees this and it changes their perception of themselves than it was worth it. Greeks watch 300, Troy and Thor and get some enjoyment that they are all strong why is it wrong for us to watch this and feel better about ourselves( collectively).
 
Judge Dread said:
Yes. It is. Because the imagery is important. Because most kids and some of you adults need black super heroes. Because if one person sees this and it changes their perception of themselves than it was worth it. Greeks watch 300, Troy and Thor and get some enjoyment that they are all strong why is it wrong for us to watch this and feel better about ourselves( collectively).
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Pretty much what i was saying in an earlier post.
 
Judge Dread said:
You should not be offended because you know it is coming from someone who is Rastafari and studied Garvey. So naturally my mindset will always have an Africa focus. But Chinese, Japanese, Italians and plenty of other people don’t disassociate themselves from there ancestors as quickly as some black people do. Why is it somehow better to be a part of a country that enslaved your ancestors than a country that your ancestors came from. I am not a let’s all go back to Africa physically because that is not realistic but I am a let’s look to Africa mentally to understand that we were not all slaves the way this country has taught us. We will never have our own in America so why not focus on something that was/ is ours. Maybe you don’t need it but self esteem changes when you realize what you truely are instead of what they are trying to feed you. Now I know it is only a movie but for some it is the first time they will will see a fictional super hero that looks like them. You can’t tell me that is not good for the black youth.
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i disagree.

if one child is kidnapped from his home at a young age, and he his beaten and starved and treated horribly for years. he one day becomes free, but he has very little and deals with adversity his entire life. however he survived. He may not be a great as he would like to be, but he has accomplished a lot for himself, and it has defined the man he is today.

one day he is reunited with his brother who was never kidnapped. the one who stayed home. He remembered his brother and even recognized him. the embraced eachother and began to treat eachother as family again.

Many year go by, but every now n then the painful conversation about the younger brother's kidnapping comes up....and there are many truths abotu that conversation that many family members don't like to say outloud, and far too often the whole story never comes out.

but let me say this. If i say being kidnapped and having to fight and scratch ym way up to relevance shaped me as a person, and ou trying to make me forget all that and look through some photo albums of shit that ain't go noting to do with happened to me... it's only so much i can deal with that shit before i say we ain't the same....

he have our story, yall have yalls, btu don't try to pretend my story ain't shit, or it's the same as yours

at the end of the day the rest of the world simply does not respect black americans... and most black americans don't respect themselves....

i feel as though i do, and i'm constantly attacked because of it
 
i wonder if stan lee gets caught fondling an intern and gets accused of sexual abuse... will niggaz boycott black panther
 
Judge Dread said:
Yes. It is. Because the imagery is important. Because most kids and some of you adults need black super heroes. Because if one person sees this and it changes their perception of themselves than it was worth it. Greeks watch 300, Troy and Thor and get some enjoyment that they are all strong why is it wrong for us to watch this and feel better about ourselves( collectively).
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If you think that's a celebration then we're worse off than I thought. There's nothing to celebrate about a black cartoon created by a white dude who will be making billions off of our plight. THere's nothing to celebrate about that. Niggas have gotten so comfortable with getting crumbs that now niggas throwin a celebration for it? It's pretty sad.
 
King Du said:
i disagree.

if one child is kidnapped from his home at a young age, and he his beaten and starved and treated horribly for years. he one day becomes free, but he has very little and deals with adversity his entire life. however he survived. He may not be a great as he would like to be, but he has accomplished a lot for himself, and it has defined the man he is today.

one day he is reunited with his brother who was never kidnapped. the one who stayed home. He remembered his brother and even recognized him. the embraced eachother and began to treat eachother as family again.

Many year go by, but every now n then the painful conversation about the younger brother's kidnapping comes up....and there are many truths abotu that conversation that many family members don't like to say outloud, and far too often the whole story never comes out.

but let me say this. If i say being kidnapped and having to fight and scratch ym way up to relevance shaped me as a person, and ou trying to make me forget all that and look through some photo albums of shit that ain't go noting to do with happened to me... it's only so much i can deal with that shit before i say we ain't the same....

he have our story, yall have yalls, btu don't try to pretend my story ain't shit, or it's the same as yours

at the end of the day the rest of the world simply does not respect black americans... and most black americans don't respect themselves....

i feel as though i do, and i'm constantly attacked because of it
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But could it be because America doesn’t respect Black Americans? Everything starts at home. So why should I respect you if your own home doesn’t. America has told the story of Black Americans so the world only learned that from the country you claim.
 
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