HS track athlete stabbed & killed at track meet; suspect found guilty of murder

Did Karmelo Anthony Commit Murder or Was It Self Defense?

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Chi-Town B said:
Somebody who is much larger than you threaten to beat your ass and his brother also in the vicinity y'all not go poke him as soon as he touch you. In the moment I get why his first instinct was to stab.
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I was always taught to defend myself by any means. Especially if the opposition is jumping me and bigger than me. That means if a table leg, book, beaker, lunch tray, etc can be used to help me get niggas off me to make it home with minimal damage, USE IT. By no means am I aiming to kill my opposition, I’m just trying to make it an even fight.

Metcalf twins were potential D1 football players at 6ft 210lbs of muscle/ quick twitch ganging up on Karmelo who is about 5’8 less than 160lbs. There is no equal force response in this situation. If Karmelo pushes/punches these boys, it has no effect, it only ignites it to a higher level. There was no win in this situation for him.

I am not saying he should have been let go free, but 35 years is extremely excessive. He didn’t show up that day looking to kill. He was trying to defend himself.
 
Ghost313 said:
I was always taught to defend myself by any means. Especially if the opposition is jumping me and bigger than me. That means if a table leg, book, beaker, lunch tray, etc can be used to help me get niggas off me to make it home with minimal damage, USE IT. By no means am I aiming to kill my opposition, I’m just trying to make it an even fight.

Metcalf twins were potential D1 football players at 6ft 210lbs of muscle/ quick twitch ganging up on Karmelo who is about 5’8 less than 160lbs. There is no equal force response in this situation. If Karmelo pushes/punches these boys, it has no effect, it only ignites it to a higher level. There was no win in this situation for him.

I am not saying he should have been let go free, but 35 years is extremely excessive. He didn’t show up that day looking to kill. He was trying to defend himself.
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At the bold was he being jumped or ganged up on? Every story so far has said it was 1 on 1
 
Ghost313 said:
I was always taught to defend myself by any means. Especially if the opposition is jumping me and bigger than me. That means if a table leg, book, beaker, lunch tray, etc can be used to help me get niggas off me to make it home with minimal damage, USE IT. By no means am I aiming to kill my opposition, I’m just trying to make it an even fight.

Metcalf twins were potential D1 football players at 6ft 210lbs of muscle/ quick twitch ganging up on Karmelo who is about 5’8 less than 160lbs. There is no equal force response in this situation. If Karmelo pushes/punches these boys, it has no effect, it only ignites it to a higher level. There was no win in this situation for him.

I am not saying he should have been let go free, but 35 years is extremely excessive. He didn’t show up that day looking to kill. He was trying to defend himself.
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Just because you were taught fight over flight it doesn't mean you're free of consequences when/how you choose to fight. You infact do not always have to fight and whoever told you to defend yourself by any means probably told you to pick your battles wisely. Sometimes not doing anything and just getting away from the situation is the win.

1 child is dead, 1 child is an inmate and will be through what is supposed to be the prime years of his life. So really its 2 lives lost.

Im sure if Karmelo could replay it he'd just get up and leave the tent.
 
BlackRain said:
At the bold was he being jumped or ganged up on? Every story so far has said it was 1 on 1
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Ok, I don’t know you or your build. BUT Let’s say Myles Garret approaches you aggressively, punches you. Even though it’s a one on one fight, you are severely disadvantaged. Any “equal force” you try to use is futile. You have a knife/weapon on you, would you use it or let him continue to damage you?
 
Freeman said:
Just because you were taught fight over flight it doesn't mean you're free of consequences when/how you choose to fight. You infact do not always have to fight and whoever told you to defend yourself by any means probably told you to pick your battles wisely. Sometimes not doing anything and just getting away from the situation is the win.

1 child is dead, 1 child is an inmate and will be through what is supposed to be the prime years of his life. So really its 2 lives lost.

Im sure if Karmelo could replay it he'd just get up and leave the tent.
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We both think differently, but neither of us could feel what Karmelo felt in that situation. He may have really felt the need to defend himself and not just take an ass whooping or retreat.
 
Ghost313 said:
Ok, I don’t know you or your build. BUT Let’s say Myles Garret approaches you aggressively, punches you. Even though it’s a one on one fight, you are severely disadvantaged. Any “equal force” you try to use is futile. You have a knife/weapon on you, would you use it or let him continue to damage you?
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That's different from being jumped. You just created a whole new scenario with a fully sized grown man NFL player and a punch instead of a push. Of course the reaction is different
 
BlackRain said:
At the bold was he being jumped or ganged up on? Every story so far has said it was 1 on 1
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No. Melo went over because of the rain. He knew someone and dapped them up and then sat down. Austin came and told Melo to leave. Melo basically said no. He added in the touch me and see what happens bit. Witnesses said Austin said he didn't want to fight. No idea why they're creating this scenario in their heads that there were was in a fight or about to be.
 
RandomOne said:
No. Melo went over because of the rain. He knew someone and dapped them up and then sat down. Austin came and told Melo to leave. Melo basically said no. He added in the touch me and see what happens bit. Witnesses said Austin said he didn't want to fight. No idea why they're creating this scenario in their heads that there were was in a fight or about to be.
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You posted a witness saying Metcalf pushed Karmelo, dude didn't want to fight but he putting hands on someone. Melo didn't have to leave so the dead kid should have left him alone.
 
Ghost313 said:
We both think differently, but neither of us could feel what Karmelo felt in that situation. He may have really felt the need to defend himself and not just take an ass whooping or retreat.
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Those brothers wanted to be Karen's, Karmelo unfortunately made multiple bad choices and here we are. 🤷🏿‍♂️
 
RandomOne said:
No. Melo went over because of the rain. He knew someone and dapped them up and then sat down. Austin came and told Melo to leave. Melo basically said no. He added in the touch me and see what happens bit. Witnesses said Austin said he didn't want to fight. No idea why they're creating this scenario in their heads that there were was in a fight or about to be.
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Yeah this is the consistent story I've seen too. Only thing I haven't seen is who initiated the fight. As in who swung or tried to swing. Not discounting the shove but imo the fight starts when somebody swings. A shove isn't a fight to me
 
Sad situation. Very sad. My heart goes out to that black kid and his parents.

And ladies and gentlemen that's why I go hard about this (Voting to Save Everybody) shit. This is why I say that black folks need to get what the fuck they need for thier vote and quit worry about everybody else. Helping everybody else issues and problems.

This shit and many other situations clearly have shown me that folks, (white and some black coons, tethers, Asians, (other groups) ) those who may identify as Dems or Reps don't give a shit about justice when it comes to black folks, especially black Americans.

These jurors sat their asses up there and convicted this kid, along with others around this country who supported the white kid and convicted this kid.

Many who are Dems and Reps, are all online celebrating this shit, glad that the kid got 35 years.

The media, the same ones who talk about Trump, also framed their news reports and coverage to make the black kid guilty.

All these motherfuckers don't give 2 shits about black folks. Voting for them is for THEM ONLY.

And that's why I don't give 2 shits about what the fuck is going on in this country and what the fuck Trump is doing to other folks, Illegals and all that other shit, when at the end of the day, the shit doesn't matter when you got these same folks whose asking black folks (FBAs) to step it up to save illegals, they are online calling the Karmelo kid a murderer and x, y and z.

Fuck them all.

Where all the black democratic ass niggas who was protesting for their jobs 2 or 3 weeks ago.

All that voting shit, if it aint shit that we have demanded, reparations, anti-black hate bill, land other shit, fuck everything that a politician has to offer me.

I look at everything as a whole, same motherfucker who said Guilty or the kid is a murderer is the same motherfucker want you to help out their illegal cousin or help them fix the world for them. Fuck you.
 
BlackRain said:
Yeah this is the consistent story I've seen too. Only thing I haven't seen is who initiated the fight. As in who swung or tried to swing. Not discounting the shove but imo the fight starts when somebody swings. A shove isn't a fight to me
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None of the witnesses said a swing happened

Some called it a grab/touch because as soon as it happened the stabbing happened. Some said it was a slight shove and as soon as he touched him the stabbing happened
 
RandomOne said:
None of the witnesses said a swing happened

Some called it a grab/touch because as soon as it happened the stabbing happened. Some said it was a slight shove and as soon as he touched him the stabbing happened
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So no actual punches thrown. Just a shove then he stabbed him? If that's how it actually went down then Karmelo was cooked from jump and the escalation of force made self defense null and void unfortunately
 
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