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One difference between Lebron and the other Goats with multiple rings is that Lebron never had a good coach long term that he actually allowed to coach him.

He had Spo and Riley for 4 years and played his best basketball.

You cant use this as a defense for Bron though cause hes to blame for this. Dude is uncoachable and thinks hes smarter than his coaches.

Same with a GM. He wants to be involved in all the moves. A big part of all this talk bout the Cavs are trash and dont have any moves they can make falls on him. He forced some terrible contracts on the Cavs.

He kept sonning Kyrie and then Kyrie finally had enough and threatened season ending injury to force the trade.

All this Love is trash talk when Bron is the one that brought him over. Love would have bounced after the 1st year if he had any choice cause he hated playing with Bron.

I respect Lebrons greatness but lets not act like hes not a big part of the blame for "not having help" or whatever.
 
Don't forget he did a summer long campaign to bring JR back this season and we saw how that played out..
 
AZTG said:
One difference between Lebron and the other Goats with multiple rings is that Lebron never had a good coach long term that he actually allowed to coach him.

He had Spo and Riley for 4 years and played his best basketball.

You cant use this as a defense for Bron though cause hes to blame for this. Dude is uncoachable and thinks hes smarter than his coaches.

Same with a GM. He wants to be involved in all the moves. A big part of all this talk bout the Cavs are trash and dont have any moves they can make falls on him. He forced some terrible contracts on the Cavs.

He kept sonning Kyrie and then Kyrie finally had enough and threatened season ending injury to force the trade.

All this Love is trash talk when Bron is the one that brought him over. Love would have bounced after the 1st year if he had any choice cause he hated playing with Bron.

I respect Lebrons greatness but lets not act like hes not a big part of the blame for "not having help" or whatever.
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also he doesn't commit leaving franchises hostage preventing them from deciding to prepare for the present or the future.
 
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Duncan:
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Kobe:
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Ojajuwon:
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Isiah:
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So you're just gonna skip over when he ran to miami huh? lol


And lol @ posting gasol and odom like they're HOF players , cut it out
 
The Miami era proves my point. No single man on this planet can win a title by himself. Lebron like every other player on this globe needs help. When he had help in Miami he became a champion. Lebron was great enough to will that trash ass team in Cleveland to a championship once by himself and that made it even worse for him. For some crazy, unknown reason Lebron James is expected to do the impossible by himself every season. He is expected to carry 11 other bums to the promised land every single season and if he is incapable of doing what no other man in the history of the NBA has ever done he is seen as a failure. No other single human being in the history of pro basketball has had to carry that much weight by himself year in and year out. Anyone who truly expected the Cleveland Lebron's to beat Goldem State was kidding themselves. He did the impossible once but no one can expect this man to walk on water year in and year out. Guess what everybody Lebron James is only a man. The expectations, contradictions and hate when it comes to him have always been ridiculously insane.
 
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Goldie said:
So you're just gonna skip over when he ran to miami huh? lol


And lol @ posting gasol and odom like they're HOF players , cut it out
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Lol at Lebron running to Miami but KD not running to GS. Gtfohwtbs

Lol at clowing Gasol and Odom but expecting championship play from Smith and Thompson. As I said the expectations, contradictions and hate for Lebron are ridiculously insane.
 
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No one ever expected Paul Pierce to win shit before KG and Ray Allen showed up but for some reason Lebron is expected to make chicken salad out of chicken shit with the same trash ass, garbage, pre-big 3 caliber teams that Paul Pierce had in Boston. Pierce was a good player on an awful that no one outside of Boston paid that much attention to. But when he finally got some help he was immediately transformed into a championship caliber player with a little hof buzz.

It was understood that he couldn't do it alone and that having 2 of the best players of his generation on his team would change the entire trajectory of his career. Its insane that Paul Pierce was allowed to get help and became an all time Celtic great but for the entirety of his career in Cleveland Lebron was expected to get Paul Pierce results without having the same level of help that Pierce ended up getting. Gtfohwtbs. As I said earlier the expectations, contradictions and hate for LBJ are ridiculously insane.
 
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I’ll will say this:

Mike NEVER FACED a team in the Finals with 3 or more All-Stars on it.

Bron did 7 times, going 2-5 against those teams.

(Everyone except the 2011 Mavs and the 2012 Thunder)
 
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Bron hater:**sets standards for bron higher than kobe**

"Dont compare him to kobe tho"

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Screamin A Smith says "stop comparing him to MJ!!"

**Bron gets swept**
First thing he does is bring up MJ

Yall are the main ones driving the debate
 
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I’ll will say this:

Mike never FACED a team in the Finals with 3 or more All-Stars on it.

Bron did 8 times, going 3-5 against those teams.

(Everyone except the 2011 Mavs)
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Bruh you dumb af. Name the 3 all stars on the 2007 spurs, the 2012 thunder,2013,2014 spurs & 2015 warriors
 
Mister B. said:
I’ll will say this:

Mike NEVER FACED a team in the Finals with 3 or more All-Stars on it.

Bron did 7 times, going 2-5 against those teams.

(Everyone except the 2011 Mavs and the 2012 Thunder)
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That Thunder team had three MVPs on it - all be it, in their younger years.
 
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