Guns in America

konceptjones said:
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I wonder how she speaks to white dudes vs black dudes.

First, she's 100% right, ego should be checked at the door. If you don't know what you're doing, let someone teach you.

That said, we know some people can't do that. As a result, it matters how you approach and speak to them. If she had the same energy at the time that she did in the video, she's not going to get a good response. Black men don't really being talked down to like that even when they might need that kinda treatment. I don't think white men like it either though. So, I'd be very surprised if she treats both groups the same, but gets a different response.

Black people in general act different with other black people than white people. People never really acknowledge that fact when they make these "On black men/women/people ever do this..." type of comments.

Her overall message is spot on though and extends to more than just guns.
 
The end of the video is the part that resonated with me:

"... Because growing up Black, guns weren't a right, guns weren't freedom, guns were criminal..."
"... The reason some Black people don't know about guns isn't because we can't, it's because we were never supposed to."

And in my opinion this is not only true (i.e Alabama passed a law in 1866 prohibiting freed Black folks from owning a gun or even possessing one), but its why there's so much opposition to them from many of the posters here.

 
Man, my YT page is all messed up. I'm about to get a knock on the door with all this gun content out of nowhere mixed with the slightly anti-american political content. lol

That Colion dude has been popping up on my page a lot lately. I like his content. He recently made a video about PCCs that's basically what I been saying for a few years.

konceptjones said:
The end of the video is the part that resonated with me:

"... Because growing up Black, guns weren't a right, guns weren't freedom, guns were criminal..."
"... The reason some Black people don't know about guns isn't because we can't, it's because we were never supposed to."

And in my opinion this is not only true (i.e Alabama passed a law in 1866 prohibiting freed Black folks from owning a gun or even possessing one), but its why there's so much opposition to them from many of the posters here.

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I can't really agree with this though. Black people got guns everywhere. Yeah, the government tried to keep guns away from us, but they cared less about doing that when we started turning the guns on each other. That's why you get opposition from so many people in our community, because many of us have seen the bad side to gun ownership.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
Man, my YT page is all messed up. I'm about to get a knock on the door with all this gun content out of nowhere mixed with the slightly anti-american political content. lol

That Colion dude has been popping up on my page a lot lately. I like his content. He recently made a video about PCCs that's basically what I been saying for a few years.



I can't really agree with this though. Black people got guns everywhere. Yeah, the government tried to keep guns away from us, but they cared less about doing that when we started turning the guns on each other. That's why you get opposition from so many people in our community, because many of us have seen the bad side to gun ownership.
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Yeah, but that's all we see, which is what Colion mentioned. When it's a white man with a gun, he's protecting his family or saving the day, when it's a Black or Brown man he's committing a crime and that's the narrative being pushed. Shit, even Asians with a gun are organized crime members. A white man with a gun can be good or bad, people of color are usually bad people in the eyes of the media and that's pretty much ingrained in our collective psyche.

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konceptjones said:
yeah, but that's all we see, which is what Colion mentioned. When it's white, he's protecting his family, when it's Black he's committing a crime and that's the narrative being pushed.
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I believe that, but our community is largely to blame for that. Even among our own people, the image of the gun toting thug/criminal/gangsta is pushed more than responsible hobbyist or the protector.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
I believe that, but our community is largely to blame for that. Even among our own people, the image of the gun toting thug/criminal/gangsta is pushed more than responsible hobbyist or the protector.
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Is it that we're to blame, or is it because that's all we see because it's all we're fed and we believe nothing more and act accordingly, thus perpetuating that programming for the media to show?
 
konceptjones said:
Is it that we're to blame, or is it because that's all we see because it's all we're fed and we believe nothing more and act accordingly, thus perpetuating that programming for the media to show?
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I'm not going to give us that out. Yes, external forces push that narrative, but so do we. At the end of the day, they only have the ammunition we give them.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
I'm not going to give us that out. Yes, external forces push that narrative, but so do we. At the end of the day, they only have the ammunition we give them.
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I look at it in a similar way to how the propaganda machine worked against weed: Weed smokers were never the bloodthirsty murderers as they were portrayed as in the 30's, nor were the Mexican soldiers savages because they smoked weed; that shit was completely made up and pushed into the mainstream. Black folks way back weren't the gun toting criminals they were portrayed as, but that image of us has been in the media for decades and I believe it was planted there not because that's what we were doing as a whole, but to vilify us the same way they lied about weed.

Don't get me wrong, there were a few committing crime, but was and always has been a tiny fraction of Black folks no different than any other group in this country.
 
konceptjones said:
I look at it in a similar way to how the propaganda machine worked against weed: Weed smokers were never the bloodthirsty murderers as they were portrayed as in the 30's, nor were the Mexican soldiers savages because they smoked weed; that shit was completely made up and pushed into the mainstream. Black folks way back weren't the gun toting criminals they were portrayed as, but that image of us has been in the media for decades and I believe it was planted there not because that's what we were doing as a whole, but to vilify us the same way they lied about weed.

Don't get me wrong, there were a few committing crime, but was and always has been a tiny fraction of Black folks no different than any other group in this country.
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It's true that the majority of black people were not criminals. That's not really what I'm talking about though. I'm saying that we do as much to push that narrative as anything from pushing out rap music to women loving thugs to dudes getting guns so they can fake being hard.
 
konceptjones said:
If one state does it, others may get the bright idea to follow is what I'm guessing is Colion's point.
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True, but there's only a few states that could get away with that without pissing off the populace. I can't imagine them trying that in any of the southeastern or southwestern states.
 
See, this is the kind of dumb ass shit that gives decent gun owners a bad rap.

If you're gonna do some shit like this, at least wear jeans to cover the shit up. Outchea trying to be Javarion Wick and shit.

 
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My joint came in today, and I found out there is a shotgun/rifle range about 30 mins away where they only charge a $20 fee and you can shoot as much as you want.

lol I don't know when I'll be going though. I'm too broke for ammo now.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
@konceptjones

My joint came in today, and I found out there is a shotgun/rifle range about 30 mins away where they only charge a $20 fee and you can shoot as much as you want.

lol I don't know when I'll be going though. I'm too broke for ammo now.
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get u some slugs for ammo bruh

don't let them gas u with the birdshot/buckshot ammo


that "shot" ammo be having mofos thinking that their marksmanship is better than what it really is 😂
 
Mr BFK said:
get u some slugs for ammo bruh

don't let them gas u with the birdshot/buckshot ammo


that "shot" ammo be having mofos thinking that their marksmanship is better than what it really is 😂
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I'm going to get some slugs, but buckshot might be the way to go for home defense at least. I live in a townhouse. Some of those slugs will go through the intruder, drywall, and into the person on the other side of the wall. lol Good thing about this gun is you can switch between feeder tubes so I can have buckshot in one and slugs in the other and choose based on the moment.

I'm gonna get a few little boxes of different kinds of ammo and go to the range and see which one feels more comfortable to shoot. This gun will cycle those shorty shells too. I can load up with 20+1 of those, which is hilarious. Cause in MD if you have a handgun or rifle you, you're limited to a 10 round magazine, but I can roll with a shotgun with 20 shells. lol
 
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