do videos of Black folks dying on camera help or harm?

[Gunner83]

anyways, folks should be able to mourn and rally around victims of the state without video

yes, Black folks included

At the end of the day, you don't have to watch. You don't have to press play. You can change the channel, stay off certain sites, stop following Shaun and Tariq on SM. Its perfectly understandable that this is disturbing to you and others. But these situations need to exposed as much as possible as transparently as possible and not just he said she said. SOME people (especially white folks) wont believe unless they see it with their own eyes, and even then some will deny it.

 

[5th Letter]

Fam, I said 'Nevermind' MAAAAAAD long ago. Like 2 pages ago. Lol.

I'm back in this shit because you continued to engage me about it. Cool. You think you answered the question. Fine. Be blessed.

I'm not that invested.

Be blessed bro.

 

[Race Jones]

We already know law enforcement gets the benefit of doubt and are presumed to be justified in their actions off the rip... AND have been known to lie... so how can we really truly rally around the victims WITHOUT video evidence to confront their lies with?

folks didnt need to see freedie gray die on camera to mobilize and stage an uprising

or rekia boyd or sean bell or amadou diallo
or the countless others that followed rodney king before the inventions of cell phones

 

[BlackRain]

And nothing was done until the video dropped so seeing something helps more than word of mouth.

Fuck twitter and IG

That's where the video, and all of these videos, go viral at so you can't really stand by your point and then say fuck twitter and IG

 

[BlackRain]

Because I agree with their overall point. Only you Race and Czar will derail threads debating small shit while ignoring the bigger point.

That "small shit" are the details that matter and if you haven't noticed by now are what draw people in and will ultimately make them care or not care....and trust you ain't getting too many people on your side by calling them weak for not wanting to witness people being murdered.

 

[Race Jones]

At the end of the day, you don't have to watch. You don't have to press play. You can change the channel, stay off certain sites, stop following Shaun and Tariq on SM. Its perfectly understandable that this is disturbing to you and others. But these situations need to exposed as much as possible as transparently as possible and not just he said she said. SOME people (especially white folks) wont believe unless they see it with their own eyes, and even then some will deny it.

I disagree.

also who thinks about our kids? are we performing aftercare for them when these videos surface??

americans have this lopsided ideas when it comes to the consumption of violence and yet, we wonder why crime is rampant

 

[BlackRain]

I keep repeating the purpose of the video yet you still say the same thing over and over.

If your purpose is what you say it which is to bring awareness to these incidents, then those tweets wouldn't mean anything to you and you wouldn't have posted them

 

[5th Letter]

That "small shit" are the details that matter and if you haven't noticed by now are what draw people in and will ultimately make them care or not care....and trust you ain't getting too many people on your side by calling them weak for not wanting to witness people being murdered.

You spent pages in another thread arguing about who posted a tweet first...

 

[5th Letter]

If your purpose is what you say it which is to bring awareness to these incidents, then those tweets wouldn't mean anything to you and you wouldn't have posted them

What tweets?

 

[Chi-Town B]

That's where the video, and all of these videos, go viral at so you can't really stand by your point and then say fuck twitter and IG

That's in reference to me getting an account on those

 

[BlackRain]

The cops get the benefit of the doubt... but with vid..nvm

But with videos...they get put on blast. If your only goal is to put people on blast for doing fucked up shit then that's not really a hard goal to achieve.

 

[Inori]

folks didnt need to see freedie gray die on camera to mobilize and stage an uprising

or rekia boyd or sean bell or amadou diallo
or the countless others that followed rodney king before the inventions of cell phones

Fair enough but would you at the very least concede that their jobs would have been a hell of a lot easier if they had concrete evidence by way of video footage to bolster their argument that excessive force and wrongdoing was done?

 

[BlackRain]

You spent pages in another thread arguing about who posted a tweet first...

No I didn't. Somebody else said something and I made 1 post to correct them

 

[Race Jones]

Fair enough but would you at the very least concede that their jobs would have been a hell of a lot easier if they had concrete evidence by way of video footage to bolster their argument that excessive force and wrongdoing was done?

I cant say if their jobs would have been harder or easier because look how hard it is even when you have visual proof. lol

so idk inori.

 

[BlackRain]

What tweets?

The ones under the AOC tweet you posted

 

[Inori]

I cant say if their jobs would have been harder or easier because look how hard it is even when you have visual proof. lol

so idk inori.

True... it's an uphill battle for us with or without evidence. No surprise to any of us tho.... That's just life in America.

My viewpoint is that video evidence helps tho. Does it need to be on a continuous loop? Absolutely not. But the video evidence is helpful IMO

 

[BlackRain]

Let me see the exact post. As a matter of fact @Chi-town B did you say people didn’t care until a video comes out?

He said nobody knew about the murder til the video came out...still wrong but that's what he actually said in that post

 

[BlackRain]

True... it's an uphill battle for us with or without evidence. No surprise to any of us tho.... That's just life in America.

My viewpoint is that video evidence helps tho. Does it need to be on a continuous loop? Absolutely not. But the video evidence is helpful IMO

Your point is what people have been rationally saying the past few pages...

 

[Diabolical_Dos]

True... it's an uphill battle for us with or without evidence. No surprise to any of us tho.... That's just life in America.

My viewpoint is that video evidence helps tho. Does it need to be on a continuous loop? Absolutely not. But the video evidence is helpful IMO

we need more untainted black judges and prosecutors.

 

[Inori]

we need more untainted black judges and prosecutors.

Agreed... That's where I was going with my post in the other thread

this is why I'll never understand the viewpoint of disengaging from local and national politics. Not being engaged politically has real life consequences attached to it